OOPSIE!!!!

[rigpiggy]

Three planes collide on the ground at Baton Rouge Metro Airport

Posted: July 21, 2008 09:48 PM

Updated: July 22, 2008 02:22 PM

BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) - A three-plane ground crash at the Baton Rouge Metro Airport could have become an explosive disaster.

It happened at the new regional maintenance hangar for Atlantic Southeast Airlines, or ASA.

The total value to the three CRJ commuter jets is $100 million and it looks like the most expensive one is a total loss.

The entire incident reportedly took five seconds.

A young mechanic pressed a starter switch to slowly spin the compressor blades for cleaning.

Instead, her action sent the engine to immediate takeoff power, hurling the fragile aircraft at 90 degree angles.

Witnesses say it's a wonder the entire hangar wasn't sent up in flames, not to mention injury or death to the 14 ASA mechanics and cleaning crew members working inside.

[Strega]

It looks like this person "forgot" alot of things!


How the F#$K can you be sooooooooooo stupid as to not set the park brake, chocks, apply the brakes,or at least even pull the throttles to idle? if these so-called "engineers" are to be in the cockpit turning the engines over, dont you think you should have at least, a basic knowledge of how to start, even perhaps taxi?

[rigpiggy]

Strega, yer a Troll!

[Strega]

Can we call this a mistake? or stupidity?

I call it stupidity. just like the video (Im sure most of us here have seen it) of a gent trying to fly a Hughes 300 helo with no training, crashing the RJ in this manner is STUPIDITY!

[SAR_YQQ]

Maintainers don't taxi aircraft - they tow them from place to place. It sounds like she was conducting a compressor wash and was motoring the starter.

[Strega]

Maintainers don't taxi aircraft - they tow them from place to place. It sounds like she was conducting a compressor wash and was motoring the starter.

Sure they do, I have a good friend that routinely taxis the RJ. He doesnt seem to have any issues such as this....

[shankdown]

...women drivers...

[linecrew]

I gotta admit I agree with Strega. Especially given the insanely high cost of damage to perfectly serviceable aircraft from what appears to be someone venturing beyond their knowledge limits. I'd guess that poor training or poor decision making was probably the root cause.

[MZUNGO]

Maintainers don't taxi aircraft - they tow them from place to place. It sounds like she was conducting a compressor wash and was motoring the starter.

in the real world of aviation they do

[robbreid]

Click Here for photos and story.

[Donald]

Would AME's normally follow a check list?

Or is it "Hey, would you go in there and hit the start button for us?"

[xsbank]

Hey, nobody was hurt. Just a little junk lying around. "New" and "untrained" mean that heads will roll higher up.

Why get all exercised over this? Like I said, nobody was hurt and nobody on this site actually owns any of this junk, so why get so excited? An excellent learning example and a damn good show of why we should NEVER get complacent around a/c! Look at the bright side, the cleaners will be happy!

Strega, you are more and more frequently sounding like your namesake. You might try yoga for the stress - works great for me.

[Strega]

Hey, nobody was hurt. Just a little junk lying around. "New" and "untrained" mean that heads will roll higher up.

Why get all exercised over this? Like I said, nobody was hurt and nobody on this site actually owns any of this junk, so why get so excited? An excellent learning example and a damn good show of why we should NEVER get complacent around a/c! Look at the bright side, the cleaners will be happy!

Strega, you are more and more frequently sounding like your namesake. You might try yoga for the stress - works great for me.

Because 100million$$$ of airplanes have been wrecked!- this in a time airlines can least afford it.

[F/O Crunch]

IINSIDE JOB!!

[2R]

I bet the cleaners are cleaning their shorts

[Troubleshot]

I'd say ASA will gladly take the insurance money....they can soak the insurance companies on this one, even if they repair the planes and not write them off you can be sure they will come ahead on this little mishap.

[small penguin]

Would AME's normally follow a check list?

Or is it "Hey, would you go in there and hit the start button for us?"

Granted the local AMO doesnt work on CRJs, but I've yet to see them "work from a checklist" when servicing. More just using some form of "checklist" as a "reference"

[xsbank]

Meh.... insurance.

[Troubleshot]

Would AME's normally follow a check list?

Or is it "Hey, would you go in there and hit the start button for us?"

They should. It is your only defence during engine runs/taxi incidents. Most aircraft are so automated they give a false sense on security in the flightdeck and most feel they don't need one...I am also guilty of this, the better I know an aircraft the more likely I am not to use a check list.

[Flybabe]

Can't speak for ASA, but at the company I work for, many of the shop workers do NOT have A&P certification. There's quite a few that are apprenticing and can learn on the job. Sad to say, I can see someone doing something like that. It likely wasn't stupidity on her part, but rather peer influence (not wanting to look like a rookie) and oversight on the part of both the supervising A&P and shop foreman as to what was going on.

Definitely serves as an expensive lesson

Added as an afterthought: our A&P's taxi aircraft regularly.

[MUSKEG]

Typical media, Didn't know that an engine can immediately go to take of thrust. I imagine that would take 10 seconds and probably resulted in a huge overtemp. Being hurled to me means being thrown, stupid media just looks to inflame and ramp up anything to do with aviation. Meanwhile down the street some poor child is being molested and it classed as family violence and not deemed news worthy.

[Noob]

$100M? They are about $30M new so even if all three blew up $100M is a stretch isn't it? Maybe that figure accounts for lost revenue as well as the spiralling costs of duct tape and glue. Re-read it, $100M total value, that makes more sense. Need more coffee...

[SAR_YQQ]

in the real world of aviation they do

Thanks Troll.

Airline maintainers don't taxi the wide-bodies. Pretty sure they are real world.

The military doesn't let the AVNs taxi either. If you don't think we fly in the real world - you need to shake your head.

Granted that some private corporations probably don't have the infrastructure in place to effectively tow their aircraft from point A to point B - which would be the only reason why an AME would be taxiing.

[Lost in Saigon]

Airline maintainers don't taxi the wide-bodies.

Yes they do!

Where did you get your information? I can tell you for a fact that some airlines do use "maintainers" or engineers to taxi wide body aircraft.

And sometimes they have pilots "riding the brakes" when they are being towed.

Next time you see an aircraft taxi by, or being towed, don't assume you know the whole story.

[MZUNGO]

[/quote]
Airline maintainers don't taxi the wide-bodies. Pretty sure they are real world.

The military doesn't let the AVNs taxi either. If you don't think we fly in the real world - you need to shake your head.

Granted that some private corporations probably don't have the infrastructure in place to effectively tow their aircraft from point A to point B - which would be the only reason why an AME would be taxiing.[/quote]

i have run and taxied many aircraft, as for the wide body remark who do you think drives the thing to the "quiet " end of the airport for a power assurance run at 3 in the morning
i spent 5 years in the Air Force as an avn, and now i am in the "real world" where the mechanics are allowed to taxi the airplanes and actually do maintenance to the airplanes instead of shipping them off to a civilian contractor for an inspection.
your attitude that only pilots are qualified to taxi airplanes is typical of the kind of ringknocking rupert that give good officers a bad name.
you are in for a huge eye opening when you get to civvie street and find out that the mechanics aren't going to kiss your ass just for being an officer. the respect i give all the pilots at my company is both earned and mutual.
M