US and or Canadian aircraft operating in Brazil

[Bobby868]

Does anyone know of any company operating non brazilian registered aircraft in a commercial service in Brazil? If so any info would be appreciated.

[silentivan]

I might be pulling this out of thin air, but I believe either MAF (mission aviation fellowship) US or their Canadian counterpart are operating Canadian/American registered a/c commercially. From what I understand, you are HEAVILY limited to what you can and cannot do unfortunately, so the foreign ident is just a temporary thing until the Brazilian one comes through....which could could take a long time, depending on how much reals you have or us dollars.

Hope this helps?

[SeptRepair]

The company i contract too had nothing but heart ache and greif trying to operate commercially there. Listening to their side of the story, Brasil would be one of the last places in the world i would want to try conducting business.

[Cat Driver]

Brasil would be one of the last places in the world i would want to try conducting business.

Ditto:

[TTJJ]

Would I be wrong in assuming that you are inquiring into working in Brazil?
If that is the case then I'm sorry, the labour and Civil Aviation laws don't allow foreigners to fly commercially. Missionary work is done as a private flight.


For the other nay sayers and pseudo experts from decades long past:

Brazil is no different than Canada or the USA in that there are restrictions to foreign ownership of commercial air services.

One major difference is that only Brazilian Nationals are allowed to hold a commercial or ATP pilot license.
The other is that there is, in a practical sense, no night VFR … period. And cities are a LONGGGG way apart in the boonies.
The Chief of Operations must hold a Brazilian ATP, thereby requiring that they be a citizen, by birth or by naturalization as well.
You also have to speak/read/write Portuguese to be a pilot.

There are no contract commercial pilots (in the common conception of the term) in Brazil, unless they are type specific instructors, and then only for 6 months, renewable once.

Brazil is a very far cry from The Emirates etc.

The Brazilian CARs are copied word for word from the FAA. To set up a Part 135 commercial operation is a herculean task from a paper work part of view, but it is all spelled out by ANAC (MOT) in a paper on the subject and eminently doable. I fly with a guy who specializes in doing just that.

Getting the paper work done on the civil aviation side is one thing. Importing the aircraft and/or dealing with the Tax Department and opening a company is quite another. That is probably where the headaches and stories originate. The Tax Department is rather cumbersome, as Tax Departments are prone to be. I can’t really see Revenue Canada as being a beacon in the Tax Department wilderness…can you?

As for the non Brazilian registered aircraft in a commercial operation question, that can’t happen. The local ANAC (MOT) can only do flight checks in Brazilian registered aircraft. (Large jet aircraft on a temporary short term seasonal lease are an exception.) A small commercial service operating foreign registered aircraft would administratively prohibit the local civil aviation authorities from checking the safety of the service. That would be an unacceptable scenario anywhere.

Is it bureaucratic? Yes. Granted that the following is probably not in keeping with some of the comments size wise, but if it were such a horrendous place to set up a commercial air service, then one of the founders of Jet Blue wouldn’t be setting up one in Brazil now would he?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/busin ... 722b9c7%0A

[down3green]

ditto.
I have dual citizenship, brazilian and canadian, and have flown commercially in both countries. Canada is no different from Brazil.
One need the 'right to work in Canada' to fly for a canadian air service. You need to be a permanent resident or a citizen. Same thing happens in Brazil.

[Panama Jack]

Is it bureaucratic? Yes. Granted that the following is probably not in keeping with some of the comments size wise, but if it were such a horrendous place to set up a commercial air service, then one of the founders of Jet Blue wouldn’t be setting up one in Brazil now would he?

I think the founder of Jet Blue's decision to set up shop in Brazil has more to do with his expectation that he could reap profits out of the venture than any preceived ease in handling the local paperwork requirements. There are future oportunities in Latin America, and Brazil is one of the countries that leading the pack.