Just wondering if anyone has any information on Flair Air.
Ex:
Safety record, Monthly schedule, hours per year, pay, training bond, travel benefits, what they are like as a company etc.
Thanks in advance.
Flair Air
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curious as well. taxiied between their 727-200 and 737-400 in YEW the other day.
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Trix
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Thanks for the info Altiplano. It's really appreciated. They sound like a great company and from what I"m hearing are really great to work for.
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they have a few bases don't they?
I definately hear the 37 out of calgary going up to Horizon. Do they have 27's based out of YYC too?
I definately hear the 37 out of calgary going up to Horizon. Do they have 27's based out of YYC too?
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727 and 737 are based out of YYC flying Shell emloyees to Albian - AL4 from as far as YYT and YHZ. Open for on demand passenger chartes as well. Another 727 freighter is based in YYZ.
Expecting a second 737 early in 2009 - probable base YYZ-YHM. My guess Flair will continue to
hire pilots for 737, however not sure if they are going to drop the requirement for previous 737
experience. In overall a great company to work for, great people to work with.
Most of the info provided by Altiplano was correct, except for the stupid comment regarding the
use of the foreign workforce.
Expecting a second 737 early in 2009 - probable base YYZ-YHM. My guess Flair will continue to
hire pilots for 737, however not sure if they are going to drop the requirement for previous 737
experience. In overall a great company to work for, great people to work with.
Most of the info provided by Altiplano was correct, except for the stupid comment regarding the
use of the foreign workforce.
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The problem with it as I could see was relocating guys and having to give them a schedule....
which initially they did not have nor did they know at the time....
it also meant that they were going to have to pay more.....and no one wants to pay more
40's for a 37 fo in my opinion is tragic
which initially they did not have nor did they know at the time....
it also meant that they were going to have to pay more.....and no one wants to pay more
40's for a 37 fo in my opinion is tragic
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express315
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Altiplano, please accept my honest apologies if I sounded rude. I didn't mean to hurt you.
My intention was to chalenge your opinion on certain details of the topic. Not to offend you.
Aviation world is too small, we may have to share the same cockpit one day.
Here is my point. I disagree with the statement that the use of the foreighers would have been
a cheaper solution. If you are an experienced, type rated pilot, most probably an instructor or
checker, and you are offered to leave your home and family and go to work in another counry,
then why would you do it for cheap? By the way, the rest of the world have been seeing much
stronger demand for pilots than Canada did lately. So, applying the rule of supply and demand,
just guess where it is cheaper to get a pilot? On the other hand I strongly believe it will always
be cheaper for an airline to hire a yonger guy locally, because they can offer him a carrier
progression instead of the money. Of course, the airline still needs experienced guys to run the
operations, especially on type the company has never operated before. By the way Shell has never
dropped the requirement for previous 737 experience and Flair has had to comply. All of us have
flown different 737 models before, though none of us was endorsed on B734 at the time of hire.
This is why we had to go to Miamy. And this is why Flair had to hire foreign instructors to fly with
us for as long as TC wanted them on board of Flair's plane. Flair couldn't find any 737 instructor
in Canada because none of the canadian operators was willing to part out with their pilots.
Once again I confirm that info you provided was correct. I just disagreed with the way you
interpreted it. Cheers.
My intention was to chalenge your opinion on certain details of the topic. Not to offend you.
Aviation world is too small, we may have to share the same cockpit one day.
Here is my point. I disagree with the statement that the use of the foreighers would have been
a cheaper solution. If you are an experienced, type rated pilot, most probably an instructor or
checker, and you are offered to leave your home and family and go to work in another counry,
then why would you do it for cheap? By the way, the rest of the world have been seeing much
stronger demand for pilots than Canada did lately. So, applying the rule of supply and demand,
just guess where it is cheaper to get a pilot? On the other hand I strongly believe it will always
be cheaper for an airline to hire a yonger guy locally, because they can offer him a carrier
progression instead of the money. Of course, the airline still needs experienced guys to run the
operations, especially on type the company has never operated before. By the way Shell has never
dropped the requirement for previous 737 experience and Flair has had to comply. All of us have
flown different 737 models before, though none of us was endorsed on B734 at the time of hire.
This is why we had to go to Miamy. And this is why Flair had to hire foreign instructors to fly with
us for as long as TC wanted them on board of Flair's plane. Flair couldn't find any 737 instructor
in Canada because none of the canadian operators was willing to part out with their pilots.
Once again I confirm that info you provided was correct. I just disagreed with the way you
interpreted it. Cheers.
