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I have a commercial flight test soon and I have a problem making the passenger brief sound professional.
any advice would help, thanks
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You sit there. Extinguisher is there, here's how you open the door. We have a something called an ELT the switch is there. Put it on if we crash. If we have any kind of emergency, I'll tell you what to do in due time. Questions? No? Can I see your boarding pass please?
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This is the minimum that you should cover, as per the CARs:
Passenger Briefings

602.89 (1) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall ensure that all of the passengers on board the aircraft are briefed before take-off with respect to the following, where applicable:

(a) the location and means of operation of emergency and normal exits;

(b) the location and means of operation of safety belts, shoulder harnesses and restraint devices;

(c) the positioning of seats and the securing of seat backs and chair tables;

(d) the stowage of carry-on baggage;

(e) where the aircraft is unpressurized and it is possible that the flight will require the use of oxygen by the passengers, the location and means of operation of oxygen equipment; and

(f) any prohibition against smoking.

(2) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall ensure that all of the passengers on board the aircraft are briefed

(a) in the case of an over-water flight where the carriage of life preservers, individual flotation devices or personal flotation devices is required pursuant to section 602.62, before commencement of the over-water portion of the flight, with respect to the location and use of those items; and

(b) in the case of a pressurized aircraft that is to be operated at an altitude above FL 250, before the aircraft reaches FL 250, with respect to the location and means of operation of oxygen equipment.

(3) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall, before take-off, ensure that all of the passengers on board the aircraft are provided with information respecting the location and use of

(a) first aid kits and survival equipment;

(b) where the aircraft is a helicopter or a small aircraft that is an aeroplane, any ELT that is required to be carried on board pursuant to section 605.38; and

(c) any life raft that is required to be carried on board pursuant to section 602.63.
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thats not professional at all
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awesome thanks :D
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bartonfly88 wrote:thats not professional at all
That's what I did and it was just fine... It's a friggin Cessna 150 for god's sake!
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AuxBatOn's briefing is all you need. Most of the time the examiner just wants to see that you would give a briefing... he may not even make you say it.
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Just remember SLEET Q

S - Seat Belts
L - Landing Emergency
E - Extinguisher
E - Exits
T - Tobacco

Q - Questions

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It's a friggin Cessna 150 for god's sake!
How did you cover the o2 issue ?? Or the chair table ???

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T - Tobacco
There is a safety issue if I ever seen one??

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sugarfree wrote:
T - Tobacco
There is a safety issue if I ever seen one??

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In case of emergency, do you have enough for both of us?? :lol:
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sugarfree wrote:
T - Tobacco
There is a safety issue if I ever seen one??

SF./
haha well i got that one from the book called "flight test notes". :lol: :lol:
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If the plane is smoking so can you.

Just write down throw it on your clip board and read it. Simple not yet another thing to memorize either.
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No smoking within eight hours of flying and no drinking within fifty feet of the aircraft.
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Two words; "Flow Checks". You're gonna need them when you get into bigger more complex equipment, so you may as well start now. Start with the doors (here's where they are, here's how they open AND close), then move to the back of the plane, and "flow" your way to the front: ELT, Survival/first aid, seatbelts (on AND off), fire extinguisher, (I think fire, I think smoke)smoking, pax cards. Nice and organised.
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No smoking within eight hours of flying and no drinking within fifty feet of the aircraft.

So I am flying a little ol' PA33 with 2 smoking PAX , they cannot light up ???

But they can have a drink ? Right..

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AuxBatOn wrote:
bartonfly88 wrote:thats not professional at all
That's what I did and it was just fine... It's a friggin Cessna 150 for god's sake!
well you should think that probaly the next flying you'll be doing is for some company, the examiner knows that so the more professional the better. the plane is irrelevant
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bartonfly88 wrote:
AuxBatOn wrote:
bartonfly88 wrote:thats not professional at all
That's what I did and it was just fine... It's a friggin Cessna 150 for god's sake!
well you should think that probaly the next flying you'll be doing is for some company, the examiner knows that so the more professional the better. the plane is irrelevant
The evaluation has nothing to do with you being "profesionnal". The examiner just wants to evaluate your skills and knowledge and most likely doesn't care how you give you brief, as long as you give one and it's complete. And yes the airplane is relevant, things will differ with a company/airplane and usually will brief you on what you should include (the basics, required items will always be there but there will be aircraft/company specific items). If you wanted practice, why didn't you ask that question after you PPL when you had to build up PIC time? That way you could have "practiced" during you training when you brought passengers along for the ride, vice the very last minute question.

By the way, I already fly for a "company" and I have been for quite a long time actually, although the only passenger is usually myself... I don't think I need your advice on how to execute my briefs.
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AuxBatOn wrote:
bartonfly88 wrote:thats not professional at all
That's what I did and it was just fine... It's a friggin Cessna 150 for god's sake!
I'm not actualy not worried about it. I just posted it to see what people would have to say. I know it differs with the plane , the way you made it sound was like because its a 150 the passenger brief wasn't important.
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bartonfly88 wrote:
AuxBatOn wrote:
bartonfly88 wrote:thats not professional at all
That's what I did and it was just fine... It's a friggin Cessna 150 for god's sake!
I'm not actualy not worried about it. I just posted it to see what people would have to say. I know it differs with the plane , the way you made it sound was like because its a 150 the passenger brief wasn't important.
I'm not saying it's not important, what I'm saying is that it's not complicated...
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bartonfly88 wrote:I have a commercial flight test soon and I have a problem making the passenger brief sound professional.
any advice would help, thanks
Go on youtube, type in like "safety message on airplane" and listen to what they have to say, see what items they mention. Leave out the "safety is our number 1 priority phrase" Get to the point.

Fire Extinguisher
Controlls
Exits, how many? which one is closest to the passenger?
If your route of flight is over water brief her on the procedures for a water landing (which my flight test was).
Seat Belts (how they function)
Position of the ELT and how to operate it
Cell Phones and Electronics Off
Basic functions of the yoke should you pass out (haha just kidding). I don't know, i risked that on my flight test trying to crack a joke, and the examiner laughed ! It even said it in my PTR in the de-brief after the flight test, Excellent Flight Deck Attitude !


And ask them if they have any questions !

Also, for ur crew brief prior to your take off, say what you need to say. Don't memorize something, what is it to you, that is very important precautions to be taken for a take off? beginning? middle? end? how ? what ? when? where? why?

Topics you want to cover
Wind / Type of Departure / Go No Go Point / Post Rotation (failures/abnormalities) / Departure, anything to look out for? sky scrapers? towers?

I don't know, each examiner is a bit different, I've heard that some just want to get over with the flight test so they just want u to go with a memorized phrase or something. I don't know, my examiner is known for being cranky and being a hard ass, I did the flight test the way I just mentioned to you with obvs more polishing, and I scored a mighty high mark on the entire flight test.


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He's what I'd use for an emergency take off brief for a light single engine...

This is going to be a normal/short/soft field take off. Rotation speed will be XX kts. Any emergency on the ground, we stay on the ground and abort. Any serious engine malfunctions after take off and sufficient runway remaining (do your homework before hand and figure out what's sufficient), we'll land straight ahead and abort. Any serious engine malfunctions after take off with no runway remaining, we'll find a fiel/road and forced land (again, do your homework and try to find before hand what's available). Cut off altitude to come back for a forced landing on the airport is XXXX ft with XX kts and runways XX, XX, XX and taxiways X, X and X are my options (options depend with conditions of the day). Any other emergencies we'll climb to a safe altitude and assess. Questions?
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This seems to be getting a little complicated. The first question I asked my examiner was "Have you ever been in a 172?" He said "yes". I then said great this is our seatbelts and how the function, no smoking please, these are the flight controls please leave the flying to me, we have an ELECTRONIC LOCATOR TRANSMITTER (if you told a non pilot/aviation person we have an ELT onboard they'd say "whats that") So you answer we have an ELT, its in the aircraft to send out a signal in the UNLIKELY event of a crash. The door's how they work, then I went over the emergency procedures in the event of a Forced Approach (land & water). Now thats what I practiced, by the time I got to the seatbelts the examiner cut me off and said "ok lets go flying". Like anything else on the exam, show you know what your doing and your a competent pilot and they won't think twice. Start stumbling and trying to make something out of nothing they start to look for a weakness. Then again it depends on who you get and if its Friday...

Fly Safe, have fun and relax, generally whatever you hear on any airline prior to take-off is basically what your going over even if it is just a "friggin 150" :lol:
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Freddy_Francis wrote: Fly Safe, have fun and relax, generally whatever you hear on any airline prior to take-off is basically what your going over even if it is just a "friggin 150" :lol:
Except they talk about life rafts, life jackets, multiple exits, O2 Masks, etc....
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