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For a quick translation, Air Canada's Vancouver to Tokyo B777 experienced the loss of a engine (GE90) and made a precautionary landing in Anchorage. Its the second time in a number of months the AC's B777 has lost an engine.
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Un moteur d'un Boeing d'Air Canada s'éteint encore en vol
Dany Doucet
Le Journal de Montréal
01/02/2009 07h44

Pour la deuxième fois en quelques mois, un moteur des nouveaux Boeing 777 d'Air Canada s'est éteint en plein vol, vendredi soir, a appris Le Journal de Montréal.

Le vol 01 de Vancouver à destination de Tokyo au Japon a été obligé de faire un atterrissage de précaution à Anchorage, en Alaska, près de deux heures après le décollage, a confirmé hier un porte-parole d'Air Canada.

Aussi appelé le «triple sept», le B-777 ne compte que deux moteurs et la perte d'un engin en vol devient donc un incident sérieux.

Le modèle 777-300 en cause peut transporter jusqu'à 349 passagers.

Moteur problématique

Encore une fois, c'est le problématique moteur GE-90 fabriqué par General Electric qui est en cause.

Plusieurs incidents ont été déclarés à travers le monde.

Ce moteur fait d'ailleurs l'objet d'un bulletin d'inspection émis par le fabricant, ce qui signifie que les opérateurs qui utilisent un avion muni d'un GE-90 doivent faire l'objet d'inspections mécaniques particulières.

De toute évidence, cela n'a pas été suffisant.

«Il est trop tôt pour savoir ce qui s'est passé, mais à première vue cet incident serait relié à un problème dans l'engrenage (gear box) alors que l'incident précédent était relié aux ailettes du moteur», a expliqué hier John Rebe, porte-parole chez Air Canada.

Un autre avion

Air Canada a dépêché un autre appareil à Anchorage, hier après-midi, pour poursuivre le vol à destination de Tokyo.

L'incident précédent s'était aussi déroulé près de l'Alaska. Les gros porteurs passent au-dessus de cette région durant leur trajet vers l'Asie depuis Vancouver.

Anchorage a d'ailleurs été un lieu de ravitaillement obligatoire à l'époque où les avions n'avaient pas l'autonomie nécessaire pour atteindre l'Asie.

Avions neufs

Air Canada a pris possession de ses premiers Boeing 777 l'an dernier. Elle compte maintenant une flotte de 16 appareils.

Ses dix 777-300 sont utilisés principalement pour les longs courriers comme Montréal-Paris, Toronto-Sau Paulo ou Toronto-Asie. Air Canada possède aussi six 777-200 plus petits, transportant 300 passagers, mais qui ont une plus grande autonomie nécessaire pour les vols ultralongs courrier comme Vancouver-Sydney ou Toronto-Hong Kong.
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english?
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Cod Father wrote:For a quick translation, Air Canada's Vancouver to Tokyo B777 experienced the loss of a engine (GE90) and made a precautionary landing in Anchorage. Its the second time in a number of months the AC's B777 has lost an engine.
Did they end up finding the engine?
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chopsticks wrote:
Cod Father wrote:For a quick translation, Air Canada's Vancouver to Tokyo B777 experienced the loss of a engine (GE90) and made a precautionary landing in Anchorage. Its the second time in a number of months the AC's B777 has lost an engine.
Did they end up finding the engine?


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chopsticks wrote:
Cod Father wrote:For a quick translation, Air Canada's Vancouver to Tokyo B777 experienced the loss of a engine (GE90) and made a precautionary landing in Anchorage. Its the second time in a number of months the AC's B777 has lost an engine.
Did they end up finding the engine?
Located under the right wing, after a quick search.
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yyz monkey wrote:
chopsticks wrote:
Cod Father wrote:For a quick translation, Air Canada's Vancouver to Tokyo B777 experienced the loss of a engine (GE90) and made a precautionary landing in Anchorage. Its the second time in a number of months the AC's B777 has lost an engine.
Did they end up finding the engine?
Located under the right wing, after a quick search.

Nice. All is well that ends well. Thanks for the update! :lol:
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mcconnell14 wrote:english?

Here you go my friend:

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Look in between the cushions on the couch that's where I usually loose things.
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Troubleshot wrote:
chopsticks wrote:
Cod Father wrote:For a quick translation, Air Canada's Vancouver to Tokyo B777 experienced the loss of a engine (GE90) and made a precautionary landing in Anchorage. Its the second time in a number of months the AC's B777 has lost an engine.
Did they end up finding the engine?


http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-cT58rgNc
:lol: :lol: Lmao, for some reason I found that hilarious !
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back to serious...

Why the engine failed? oil? fuel? ....
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Contract was up.
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balfour wrote:Contract was up.
Zing!

Poor Air Canada, we love to hate them. It does seem as though the 777 has been more prone than average to engine failures. Either that, or we notice it more.
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Seems like British Airways has had the same amount of failures with their GE90's. Just so happened to be on the same bird...
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GE-90-115 Air Canada's last failure due to known problem of 6th stage LPT blade/root failure caused by vibration. GE has addressed this fault with a new blade design. The latest failure is due to the gearbox beveled gears/shaft failing and unlike the previous event the engine shut down was uncontrolled.
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Always nice to have a spare engine hanging off the other wing!
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Some might say: even better to have a spare on the same wing.
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ktcanuck wrote:Some might say: even better to have a spare on the same wing.
I thought they where just for show?
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There certainly have been a lot of 777 engine shutdowns... I wonder how many it takes before losing ETOPS certification?
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From AvHerald:

Incident: Air Canada B77W near Anchorage on Jan 30th 2009, engine shut down in flight
By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Feb 1st 2009 14:32Z, last updated Sunday, Feb 1st 2009 14:32Z

An Air Canada Boeing 777-300ER, registration C-FRAM performing flight AC-1 from Vancouver,BC (Canada) to Tokyo Narita (Japan), was already overhead the Pacific at FL330 around 4.5 hours into the flight, when one of the engines (GE90) had to be shut down. The airplane drifted down to FL220 and turned around for a diversion to Anchorage,AK (USA), where the airplane landed safely about 2:20 hours later.

A replacement Boeing 777-300ER resumed the flight as flight AC-2101 Saturday afternoon (Jan 31st 2009) and reached Tokyo with a total delay of 46 hours.
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Update:

An Air Canada Boeing 777-300ER, registration C-FRAM performing flight AC-1 from Vancouver,BC (Canada) to Tokyo Narita (Japan) with 272 people on board, was already overhead the Pacific at FL330 around 4.5 hours into the flight, when one of the engines (GE90) had to be shut down. The airplane drifted down to FL220 and turned around for a diversion to Anchorage,AK (USA), where the airplane landed safely about 2:20 hours later.

A replacement Boeing 777-300ER resumed the flight as flight AC-2101 Saturday afternoon (Jan 31st 2009) and reached Tokyo with a total delay of 27 hours.

The Canadian TSB reported, that the gearbox of the #1 engine failed as the airplane approached NANDY intersection. The crew completed the according checklists, secured the engine and declared emergency. The TSB gave the registration of the incident airplane as C-FIVP, that registration however is not on the Canadian aircraft register.
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ktcanuck wrote:Some might say: even better to have a spare on the same wing.
agreed ! AC should of loaded up the heavy-fleet with 345's to comp the 330's , they looked great with those Trents on the wings ! i'll bet most of the crew's miss those 345's too !
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Four1oh wrote:There certainly have been a lot of 777 engine shutdowns... I wonder how many it takes before losing ETOPS certification?

statement of the month :prayer:
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