Arctic Sunwest Charters, based in Yellowknife, has laid off more than 20 employees. Ashley Edwards-Scott, a spokesperson for Arctic Sunwest confirmed the layoffs yesterday afternoo by way of prepared statement that said the firm was forced to layoff employees because of the economic downturn which has adversely affected exploration and mining-based aviation industry. Edwards-Scott said she had no further details to release at the time.
Well, I guess Summit's not the only one after all... has Tindi laid anyone off?
But just wondering, how many of the employees receiving lay offs at Sunwest are pilots?
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Just another canuck wrote:... has Tindi laid anyone off?
They wont have to ..or can't..the government just bailed them out and they said that they
wouldn't have lay-offs if the government gave them all that money.
They wont have to ..or can't..the government just bailed them out and they said that they
wouldn't have lay-offs if the government gave them all that money.
Great people are always affected by POOR management! Did T. , L. , or J. get a bonus due to the savings? Keep the faith guy's, you will fly/fix again. Soon.
Sunwest uses economic slowdown as an excuse to "Clean House"!!!! Experienced Dash 8 Captain laid off, they keep someone that has been with the company for far less....and has to be flown into town on a rotation basis, hmmm so much for trying to "save" money. The most experienced Buffalo Captain laid off!!!! A pilot that was third on the pilot roster, let go!! HR gone at a time that human resources may be helpful in this whole mess. What about the night dispatcher who has been there far longer than the 3 month day dispatcher, how come they weren't offered to switch shifts? An AME gone who has been there for a couple of years. THE LIST IS ENDLIST.
Anyone who had a run in with management got laid off, if you kept your mouth shut you got lucky.
There was absolutly no thought put into who was laid off, kinda pathetic of asc, seems like they just reached into a hat and picked names, how else do you explain letting go of the most senior f/o who was next in line for an upgrade, or getting rid of a buffalo mechanic who has worked on those two buff's for over 10 years (He literally came with the planes from africa). And how is it that none of the junior captains and f/o's got the axe, just people who had put years of time in with the company and all had someone with less time below them (Every "layed off" pilot that i know of had been with the company for well over two years). Oh well this will probably come back and bite the company in arse sooner or later
Magnum40 wrote:So you are saying "HENCEFORTH" you'll continue to lick bag; that or you are management being licked off!!!
No bag licking going on, but I betcha a lot of "attitudes" will be moderated this year. Add this bust to tough insurance requirements, and most of the new guys might as well skip trying to get a job float flying..
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They tried that several years ago, and the owners of RTL fired every pilot in the company (except the CP, I think) summarily. This would not be a recommended course of action with this company.
wrenches and radios wrote:Lots of companies lay off the high wage earners and keep the trainees.
Is it legal to put "layoff" as the reason for termination, when it's clearly not?
What differentiates that from firing without cause?
It's too bad the guys still employed don't have the guts to stand as a group...
Sorry to say, but in a non union enviroment or not having an association etc. that negotiated an agreement that specifies how lay-offs will be done the company is free to lay-off whoever they want. As was said above they are cleaning house, not much doubt about it. Chances are those laid off have had issues/conflicts with management. I don't think many companies would lay-off senior employees to save a few bucks by keeping the junior employees, but you never know.
As for firing without cause I don't think that would apply, all they would have to do is show there is a slowdown in the business and they laid off people accordingly.
hydraulic fluid wrote:I do not know 1000 hp,but do know who he works for....no bag licking required,just do your job well...
I'll even buy "big dog milk-bones" for Turbo this year
Seriously though, I havn't seen the ads this year for seaplane pilots, not like last year. I'm expecting a bit of a slow-down, hopefully not too much. I was talking to one of the regular customers last week (who owns a private lodge up north), and he is expecting to fly more with is this summer because his construction business is down, leaving him more free time
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swordfish wrote:They tried that several years ago, and the owners of RTL fired every pilot in the company (except the CP, I think) summarily. This would not be a recommended course of action with this company.
Not quite true.
The CP, Ops Man, and DOM all walked. That caused them to have the OC suspended for a short while. When they re-started there was a new Ops Manager and CP (both with the last name Robinson) and a new DOM. That was to prevent others from shutting them down. This setup lasted until they moved into the 705 arena, and it was simply too large an operation to remain a family company.
The owners of RTL were always proud to say that they had never laid anyone off, and if you worked hard for them they generally took care of you.
It seems the real bone with the "new" management seems to be those who have interviewed with other companies, or sent out resumes. Those are the main people who got "cleaned out of the house".
Pratt wrote:As for firing without cause I don't think that would apply, all they would have to do is show there is a slowdown in the business and they laid off people accordingly.
In this case they have let people go, and at the same time are actively up-grading their replacements.
Still a layoff?
If yes, then every company out there that wants to axe someone after they have completed their probation period, could just cry "layoff".
