FAA Licence Conversion
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FAA Licence Conversion
I have been doing some resurch on this one......
I have a Canadian CPL IR, and converted it to an FAA Equivelant; and since then went on to get my FAA ATPL.
Now, to convert my FAA ATPL over to a Canadian ATPL, all I need to do is a short conversion exam, and prseto! A Canadian ATPL right?!
Well....not quite. I have been looking on the TC website and found that yes, you can convert your FAA ATPL to a Canadian equivilant after a short conversion exam, but only if you havn't gained you FAA licence "..on the strength of a forighn conversion..."
Could someone in the know please explain exactly what that means? Because the way I'm reading it..(and I hope I'm wrong), is that if you went entirely throught the FAA system and got your FAA ATPL, you can convert it over to a Canadian ATPL after one exam.
However, if you started in the Canadian system with a CPL IR, converted to an FAA CPL IR, then upgraded it to an FAA ATPL, and THEN try to covert that back to a Canadian ATPL, your stumped.
Am I reading that right?
Cheers!
I have a Canadian CPL IR, and converted it to an FAA Equivelant; and since then went on to get my FAA ATPL.
Now, to convert my FAA ATPL over to a Canadian ATPL, all I need to do is a short conversion exam, and prseto! A Canadian ATPL right?!
Well....not quite. I have been looking on the TC website and found that yes, you can convert your FAA ATPL to a Canadian equivilant after a short conversion exam, but only if you havn't gained you FAA licence "..on the strength of a forighn conversion..."
Could someone in the know please explain exactly what that means? Because the way I'm reading it..(and I hope I'm wrong), is that if you went entirely throught the FAA system and got your FAA ATPL, you can convert it over to a Canadian ATPL after one exam.
However, if you started in the Canadian system with a CPL IR, converted to an FAA CPL IR, then upgraded it to an FAA ATPL, and THEN try to covert that back to a Canadian ATPL, your stumped.
Am I reading that right?
Cheers!
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That's how I would read that.
If you can a foreign license conversion (which apparently you do), TC won't accept your application. Unfortunately, had you know this, I would surmise you would have done the conversion the same way you did the rest.
If you had a stand alone FAA license, there would be no problem.
Question being, why did you do the US ATP and not the Canadian one, which is where you're originally licensed? Can you post a link as to where you found that information? I didn't find it after a quick look.
If you can a foreign license conversion (which apparently you do), TC won't accept your application. Unfortunately, had you know this, I would surmise you would have done the conversion the same way you did the rest.
If you had a stand alone FAA license, there would be no problem.
Question being, why did you do the US ATP and not the Canadian one, which is where you're originally licensed? Can you post a link as to where you found that information? I didn't find it after a quick look.
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The bilateral agreement between TCCA and FAA give you self standing licenses. So you should be able to convert. Make sure you look into the advisory circulars and the agreement properly to ensure that you know your stuff when talking to TC.
Regular "Converted" licenses would typically display something along the lines of "based on Canadian license and medical #CAxxxxxx"
Goodbye,
Louis
Regular "Converted" licenses would typically display something along the lines of "based on Canadian license and medical #CAxxxxxx"
Goodbye,
Louis
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Quote: “I have a Canadian CPL IR, and converted it to an FAA Equivelant; and since then went on to get my FAA ATPL.”
It was the CPL that you converted. Presumably you later obtained the FAA ATP by doing the full examination and flight test for it, which means that you did not obtain it on the basis of another licence. If anyone asks, you should be able to show them copies of your FAA ATP computer exam and flight test report.
It was the CPL that you converted. Presumably you later obtained the FAA ATP by doing the full examination and flight test for it, which means that you did not obtain it on the basis of another licence. If anyone asks, you should be able to show them copies of your FAA ATP computer exam and flight test report.
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Re: FAA Licence Conversion
does a tc ppl conversion to faa ppl require a written test? or is there a licence and medical validation on the ppl level that requires no testing and just some paper work?
thanks.
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Re: FAA Licence Conversion
You can get a FAA PPL based on you TC PPL by getting a medical, a licence validation and some paperwork at an FSDO.diddydumdiddydoo wrote:does a tc ppl conversion to faa ppl require a written test? or is there a licence and medical validation on the ppl level that requires no testing and just some paper work?
thanks.
To get a full FAA PPL, you need to write a written test.
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TC to FAA PPL doesn't require anything but a letter from TC to FAA office in Oklahoma city to verify your TC license.
The faa.gov website has the forms you need to fill out and send.
I was issued a full FAA CPL after the written exam. Even though it was issued based on my Canadian experience, it is not "based on foreign certificate" like the FAA PPL I had before.
Personally, I'd do the SAMRON and SAMRA, and not the written and ride down here if your goal is obtaining a TC ATPL. Save you the headache in the long run.
The faa.gov website has the forms you need to fill out and send.
I was issued a full FAA CPL after the written exam. Even though it was issued based on my Canadian experience, it is not "based on foreign certificate" like the FAA PPL I had before.
Personally, I'd do the SAMRON and SAMRA, and not the written and ride down here if your goal is obtaining a TC ATPL. Save you the headache in the long run.
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Re: FAA Licence Conversion
Thanks for your responses guys.
Flybabe; to answer your question, I originaly grew up in the TC system, but conveted over to the FAA as I had the oppertunity to fly an 'N' Reg Aircraft, (not in the US, but in the Middle East).
I am now looking at returning back to Canada, and would rather do the one single written FAAAA, rather than the two SAMRON and SAMRA's. That all,
Fly Safe!
Flybabe; to answer your question, I originaly grew up in the TC system, but conveted over to the FAA as I had the oppertunity to fly an 'N' Reg Aircraft, (not in the US, but in the Middle East).
I am now looking at returning back to Canada, and would rather do the one single written FAAAA, rather than the two SAMRON and SAMRA's. That all,
Fly Safe!
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Re: FAA Licence Conversion
thanks for the reply skywardbound,diddydumdiddydoo wrote:
does a tc ppl conversion to faa ppl require a written test? or is there a licence and medical validation on the ppl level that requires no testing and just some paper work?
thanks.
You can get a FAA PPL based on you TC PPL by getting a medical, a licence validation and some paperwork at an FSDO.
To get a full FAA PPL, you need to write a written test.You can get a FAA PPL based on you TC PPL by getting a medical, a licence validation and some paperwork at an FSDO.diddydumdiddydoo wrote:does a tc ppl conversion to faa ppl require a written test? or is there a licence and medical validation on the ppl level that requires no testing and just some paper work?
thanks.
To get a full FAA PPL, you need to write a written test.
what is the pro/con/differences to getting an FAA PPL based on your tc PPL vs. a full FAA PPL? i am assuming the former is valid for a short period before it expires?
i need to ferry a privately N registered aircraft into canada. i have a TC CPL. can still i get the FAA PPL eventhough my licence is at the TC CPL level?
thanks again.
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Oh, I understand, trust me. LOL...
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Re: FAA Licence Conversion
The FAA PPL based on your TC PPL does expire, it is only valid when your TC licence is valid and only when your letter of validation is valid, which is 6 months.diddydumdiddydoo wrote:
thanks for the reply skywardbound,
what is the pro/con/differences to getting an FAA PPL based on your tc PPL vs. a full FAA PPL? i am assuming the former is valid for a short period before it expires?
i need to ferry a privately N registered aircraft into canada. i have a TC CPL. can still i get the FAA PPL eventhough my licence is at the TC CPL level?
thanks again.
I can't see why they wouldn't give you just a PPL, but it should be the same level of paperwork to receive a FAA CPL based on you TC CPL.
Give the nearest FSDO a call and they should be able to answer your question. Unlike TC offices, they like to answer questions, and when you go in to get your conversion, they don't charge you anything.
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Hello,
Does anyone know of a study guide for the FAAAA conversion test? FAA to Canadian....I have an FAA ATP with a few types on it and would like the CA ATPL.
Or at the least, do you know of anyone who took the test? TC's web site says it is 25 questions. I'm sure it just points out the differences between the two sets of regs....
Thanks guys....
Does anyone know of a study guide for the FAAAA conversion test? FAA to Canadian....I have an FAA ATP with a few types on it and would like the CA ATPL.
Or at the least, do you know of anyone who took the test? TC's web site says it is 25 questions. I'm sure it just points out the differences between the two sets of regs....
Thanks guys....
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The FAAAA is mostly air law differences between the two countries. There were a couple of duty time limitation type questions from 705... and the one that got me (though I'm embarrassed to admit it) was what is the 1/2 mile equivalent of RVR? Surprisingly, the answer is different between the US and Canada. Of course there were a bunch more, but if you read through the CARs and note the major differences, you'll pick it out pretty easily. Takes about 15 minutes to write, if you're slow, and another 5 to double check...
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That helps a lot...thank you very much for your time.
I'll look them over. Thanks again.
I'll look them over. Thanks again.
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I look at TC's web site and can't seem to get to the information about the FAAAA test...frustrating....is it all th e CARs that I'll have to look over, or do they focus on certain sections?
Thanks guys...
Thanks guys...
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The FAA PPL based on your TC PPL does NOT expire. It is valid as long as your TC medical and license are valid and as long as your USA BFR (Biennial Flight Review) is current. I am going through the process right now and have confirmed this with the FAA. The expiration on the letter only applies to having your FAA license issued. IE: You have to have your FAA license issued within 6 months of receiving the verification letter or else you have to have your TC license verified by the FAA again.skywardbound wrote:The FAA PPL based on your TC PPL does expire, it is only valid when your TC licence is valid and only when your letter of validation is valid, which is 6 months.diddydumdiddydoo wrote:
thanks for the reply skywardbound,
what is the pro/con/differences to getting an FAA PPL based on your tc PPL vs. a full FAA PPL? i am assuming the former is valid for a short period before it expires?
i need to ferry a privately N registered aircraft into canada. i have a TC CPL. can still i get the FAA PPL eventhough my licence is at the TC CPL level?
thanks again.
I can't see why they wouldn't give you just a PPL, but it should be the same level of paperwork to receive a FAA CPL based on you TC CPL.
Give the nearest FSDO a call and they should be able to answer your question. Unlike TC offices, they like to answer questions, and when you go in to get your conversion, they don't charge you anything.
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Re: FAA Licence Conversion
Hello everyone,
I have an FAA CPL and plan on converting it to a Transport Canada CPL. I've already got my medicals and also plan on getting my Canadian Radio Telephony exam next month.
I've got my FAA license verified by Transport Canada. All I need to do is schedule an exam with TC and give my conversion exam.
Is the Air Law exam, the only exam that I will have to give to convert my license? Any study guides available for me to study for this exam. I'm pretty clueless from where I have to study. I hear that the exam is about the air law differences between U.S and Canada.
Can anyone please help me out here and let me know the study guides I require for both the Conversion exam and Radio Telephony exam ? Will highly appreciate it. Thank you
I have an FAA CPL and plan on converting it to a Transport Canada CPL. I've already got my medicals and also plan on getting my Canadian Radio Telephony exam next month.
I've got my FAA license verified by Transport Canada. All I need to do is schedule an exam with TC and give my conversion exam.
Is the Air Law exam, the only exam that I will have to give to convert my license? Any study guides available for me to study for this exam. I'm pretty clueless from where I have to study. I hear that the exam is about the air law differences between U.S and Canada.
Can anyone please help me out here and let me know the study guides I require for both the Conversion exam and Radio Telephony exam ? Will highly appreciate it. Thank you