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What are the plans for TS A330's..??

If they we're to replace them, what would it be...??? More A310's...
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The CEO's plan is to have nothing but A330's by the end of 2012 but what he wants and what will be approved could be really different. We'll see. I doubt we'll have more A310s in the short term.

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I think the fleet renewal plan is to replace the 310's. There's talk of 767's starting in 2012. They might add another 330 or 2, but to have only 330's isn't very ideal for all the runs. But, who knows, talk is talk.
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I heard Perimeter is going to buy Transat.

WTF are you talking about !!!!
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Mike B wrote:
I heard Perimeter is going to buy Transat.

WTF are you talking about !!!!
I deleted the post in question. Ignore the comedians (although it was kinda funny) and please carry on this thread. I'm interested :)
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From what I understand A350s were an option to replace the A310s. I wasnt aware anything was going to happen to the A330.
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Comedy aside, what if EIIF, the fund that owns perimeter does buy Transat?
If someone told me they would own Calm Air, even a year ago I would have laughed...
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mbav8r wrote:Comedy aside, what if EIIF, the fund that owns perimeter does buy Transat?
If someone told me they would own Calm Air, even a year ago I would have laughed...
What sector of Groupe Transat are you refering to? Do you know what this company in the whole (not just the airline) is worth? Does anyone understand how deep they are in this industry? The tour operators, the resorts..etc etc. I think there are only a few companies in the world that can come up with a serious bid to purchase this company IF the board/founding fathers ever considered to put a "4 sale" sign on the front lawn.
This company is horizontally integrated, NOT vertically integrated, which for those in the know that makes for one solid stable company.

Maybe Bill Gates and Oprah aka Harpo Inc. would make a serious bid for this very resourceful, dynamic, successful company. :wink:

Seriously, the Airbus fleet has served them well from what I can see. The 767 Boeing rumor has been circulating for as long as I can remember. The logistics for them to change over the
fleet from 1/2 Airbus to 1/2 Boeing seems....highly unlikely, to say the least.

But that's just my opinion
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The latest news are a fleet of A330 only by 2012-2015.
It's not just a rumor, but everything is always subject to change...
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I'm hearing the same thing, 310's phased out and a fleet of 330s with 3 class configuration. The 310 is a great plane for the kind of flying that Transat does but there are less and less available as time passes. Also the 330's carry 70-100 more pax for nearly the same fuel burn...
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Word from someone in the know is that the company is considering over the long term to eventually have Canjet or another operator slowly takeover the widebody flying at a much lower crew cost. Like the narrowbody's, when TS doesn't need them, it is the other operators problem to find more work.
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hamstandard wrote:Word from someone in the know is that the company is considering over the long term to eventually have Canjet or another operator slowly takeover the widebody flying at a much lower crew cost. Like the narrowbody's, when TS doesn't need them, it is the other operators problem to find more work.

That's a good laugh!! They have bigger issues to deal with other than trying to operate widebodies to do our work. Like having a reasonable Dental Plan for the pilots and their families. "Someone in the know" what a joke!! The Canjet 5 yr agreement has a "30 day cancellation clause" in it, from someone in the know!!
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hamstandard wrote:Word from someone in the know is that the company is considering over the long term to eventually have Canjet or another operator slowly takeover the widebody flying at a much lower crew cost. Like the narrowbody's, when TS doesn't need them, it is the other operators problem to find more work.
Yeah, right! :roll:
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hogster330 wrote:Dental Plan
Lisa needs braces.
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Rudy wrote:
hogster330 wrote:Dental Plan
Lisa needs braces.
Soooo loooooong DENNAL plan.
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hamstandard wrote:Word from someone in the know is that the company is considering over the long term to eventually have Canjet or another operator slowly takeover the widebody flying at a much lower crew cost. Like the narrowbody's, when TS doesn't need them, it is the other operators problem to find more work.

Hello Hamstandard,

Care to share with us who in the know shared this with you? There are very people in the "know" and I can 99.9% assure you who ever you are talking to is not in the "know". The know right now is limited to a very small group who don't talk much outside of the group till things are actually going to happen.

Right now the rumour mill is working overtime, don't believe anything you have heard. In the last week or so I have heard everything from TSC is looking at adding it's own fleet of narrow bodies (on again off again), maybe with some Montreal built planes, to getting some much larger widebody aircraft to buying a certain western Canadian based narrow body carrier to just about anything you can think of!

Funny thing I have not heard any talk of better crew meals........

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60N30W wrote:
Funny thing I have not heard any talk of better crew meals........

BUah hahahahahaha!!!!

Other than a time in the late 90's where Transat had breakfast wraps for crew meals...has there ever been better 'crew meals' with any company in Canada!?!

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Common now. That tofu shit isn't too bad. :D
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NOW I"M SORRY I ASKED !!!!

IMHO, Transat should swallow up Canjet..!

TRANSAT -800's would be cool to see... :P
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Air Transat can't operate 37's for the price they pay Canjet and they can drop the contract if things go sideways. We don't always get what they are doing but you have to admit that a tour operator that keeps an airline going for 20+ years is doing something right.
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I'm hearing things about TS parking an airplane ( 310 ? 330 ? ) untill the economy picks up ... or at least untill they see how well they do on the new routes this summer.

This makes me worried about fleet renewal right now :S
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TFTMB heavy wrote:Air Transat can't operate 37's for the price they pay Canjet and they can drop the contract if things go sideways.
Exactly. And if they can do the same with the widebodies they can improve their falling profits. Getting someone else to park some widebodies on short notice is cheaper. And my source tells me that top brass at TS thinks their pilots are paid excessively. They would rather have someone else(actually, several companies) worry about dental plans. All long term planning though over the next decade according to my 'Source'.
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Exactly. And if they can do the same with the widebodies they can improve their falling profits. Getting someone else to park some widebodies on short notice is cheaper. And my source tells me that top brass at TS thinks their pilots are paid excessively. They would rather have someone else(actually, several companies) worry about dental plans. All long term planning though over the next decade according to my 'Source'.[/quote]

Hamstandard,

Your "source" is out to lunch, care to share who that source is? Everyone's top brass in aviation thinks pilots are paid too much, so that would not make the brass at TSC any different than any other carrier, further to that if the widebody flying were contracted out the top brass would be out of a job. On top of that the widebody fleet flies all year long so there is no issue with having aircraft around that you don't have flying for or having to park a/c on short notice.

As I said before the rumour machine is working overtime right now, don't believe anything you hear from your "source" or anyone elses "sources" these days, in other words stay away from the water cooler.

Remember one thing about Group Transat, owning the airline is one of the reasons the company has been so successful over the last 20 or so years, a few bad quarters is not going to scare J.M. into getting rid of the airline, we (Group Transat) have been through hard times before and have always come out stronger.

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IflyaSewerpipe wrote:Common now. That tofu shit isn't too bad. :D
:D But I bet there ALWAYS is one tofu crew meal left over at the end of the flight...if not two. :wink:

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History background for those not in the know reading this thread;

STAR Airlines, the last I heard about Star Airlines was that Star Alliance didn't want any issue with Star Airlines coming after them because the name rings similar, so Star Airlines made a deal with Star Alliance for their staff to have the full travel package of "ID-90" travel on ALL on the companies making up Star Alliance. :shock: Awesome for them.

Unfortunately this was NOT extended to Air Transat that owned 51% of Star Airlines.

Question for the vets @ TS....what ever happened to Star Airlines? Why did TS fold it?
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Star Airlines was sold a few years ago, can't remember to who exactly, then a name changed happened. Think it is still around in one form or another. Why it was sold........got a good offer? not sure on that one.
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