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Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:16 pm
by I Я Instructor
... is something like that available? If not... anyone interested in some block time?

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:57 pm
by C172-B744
I am not aware of anything at YYC or YBW, though the school at YYC was rumoured to be reviewing its insurance policy in hopes of allowing there twin to be rented without an instructor on board.

the Cooking lake aviation academy has a Seminole available though that's up Edmonton way.

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:30 am
by I Я Instructor
I think the simplest way this is going to play out is to buy my own *shrug*

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:47 am
by _dwj_
Morgan Air at YYC has a Twin Comanche that they sometimes rent out solo on a case-by-case basis (at least, that was the case back in Aug 2006) so you might want to contact them.

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:01 am
by Hedley
Buy your own twin, so that you can offer multi-time
to other people!

If you have an entity purchase it which is at "arms length" from
you, you can also offer VFR multi endorsements and group one
(multi) instrument rating training as per CAR 406.03(2)(b)(iii) -
no FTU OC or AMO required.

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:56 pm
by I Я Instructor
Hedley you are just a bottomless pit of information aren't ya?! Gonna have to consider that one. THANKS!
_dwj_ thanks for that as well.

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:50 pm
by JAHinYYC
The Business Case

I have been casting my eye around at what schools charge for thier multi flying. Rates seem to be $275-$300/hr solo wet with most schools using a PA-44-180 or PA-34-200/200T.

Given fuel burns in each of the above of 20 US gph (~76 L/hr) and current fuel prices ($1.30/hr retail) I get fuel costs of slightly under $100 per hour.

The implied cost of aircraft including maintenance, engine reserve, insurance and profit is $175/hr dry.

Assuming one could buy a clapped out Apache or a Twin Comanche and burn 16gph ($20 less fuel per hour) and take out another $20 in profit - does this mean the "real" cost of twin flying these days is ~$230/hr wet?

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:01 pm
by Hedley
Remember that you have both period and variable costs in
your dollars per hour figure. The more hours you fly, the
lower your period costs, on a per-hour basis.

For example, if your hangarage and insurance bills are
$20,000 per year, if you fly one revenue hour in a year,
those period costs are $20,000/hr :shock:

If you fly 200 revenue hours in a year, then those costs
drop to $100/hr.

If at all possible, you want to fly 1000 revenue hours per year :wink:

If you have a private owner add up all his bills for the
year, then divide by the national average of 35 hours
per year, to get his cost per hour .... well, you can watch
a grown man cry, because it would not be unusual to
get a figure of $300 to $400 per hour.

Re: Block time multi-engine in YYC?

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:46 pm
by Cat Driver
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