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Turkish 737 lands at the wrong airport

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Not sure how this can happen but... :oops: Makes me want to search for examples of similar occurences.

Date: 08-APR-2009
Type: Boeing 737-8F2
Operator: Turkish Airlines
Registration: TC-JFT
C/n / msn: 29780/454
Occupants: 69
Airplane damage: None
Location: T'bilisi - Georgia
Phase: Landing
Nature: International Scheduled Passenger
Departure airport: LTBA
Destination airport: UGTB

Narrative:
Took off at 13:54 (GMT +2:00h) from LTBA. Its normal destination was UGTB but the pilot landed the airliner to Vaziani AFB instead of UGTB by mistake, 16 kms away from T'bilisi.[quote][/quote]
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l would assume that the crew maybe flew to their alternate rather than destination.

ooops!

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Air Canada made an approach to Vernon instead of Kelowna a few years ago. :oops:
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How does this even happen on an IFR flight plan, under radar vectors and a pre-progammed FMS?
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How does this even happen on an IFR flight plan, under radar vectors and a pre-progammed FMS?


"Cleared the visual..."
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This happens all the time. See, in Canada, airports are 100
miles away from each other. But other places in the world
may have airports quite close to each other.

A similar mistake is the wrong runway. There was a fatal
crash recently when a commuter tried to take off on a short
runway at LEX. Also, Air Canada is fond of landing on the
taxiway at SeaTac.
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Hedley wrote:This happens all the time. See, in Canada, airports are 100
miles away from each other. But other places in the world
may have airports quite close to each other.

A similar mistake is the wrong runway. There was a fatal
crash recently when a commuter tried to take off on a short
runway at LEX. Also, Air Canada is fond of landing on the
taxiway at SeaTac.
Good point I never thought of it that way in terms of also not using the correct runway. And they were close together (16km's). wow sea-tac taxi-way landings! I'm going to dig up the dirt on that one right now! Thanks for the reference to the LEX accident I remember thinking how the hell could they not see the numbers painted on the runway while taxiing out but it was dark and I guess it's obvious that information can get mixed up or missed completely if your not extremely vigilant. The one thing it tells me is to keep my eyes and ears open and check everything twice during my career.
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There was a woman who landed her buck-fifty on
runway 33 at Pearson, while she was talking to
someone on the unicom at Brampton who was
giving her instructions.

Wrong runway 33. YYZ didn't have a clue she
was there.

Transport fined her $100 bucks and sent her
on her merry way.
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Hedley wrote:
Transport fined her $100 bucks and sent her
on her merry way.

a $100 fine lol that wouldn't even cover the landing fee at pearson she got of easy
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If you have ever flown into SEA you would see how it would be very easy to land on the taxiway there. (I think its "T" if you're looking at a runway layout) It runs parallel to the other two runways, it's almost as wide and was much more visible. (there is now a 3rd runway on the otherside of the taxiway) Add in some low vis and a dirty window, and its not hard to understand the mistake. I believe the Air Canada flight that landed there was actually a Jazz Dash-8. (which likely didn't have FMS or EFIS) There were several landings on that taxiway over the years by a few airlines.
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Many moons ago I was working Downsview tower and in those days everyone used 126.2 as a common tower frequency. YYZ tower cleared Speedbird ABCD to land Rnwy23 and the pilot in true Brit casual responded accordingly. Toronto asked him twice for his position and each time his highness responded accordingly...read snottily. I picked up the mike and istructed Speedbird ABCD to pull up as he was lined up with the taxiway into DHCs south plant...at Downsview.

The Super Constellation with water injection wentt by my window and was given aheading and distance to YYZ.

The red glow in the cockpit left seat was clearly visible from the tower.
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How in the F do you land at Pearson and not notice?
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I believe the Air Canada flight that landed there was actually a Jazz Dash-8. (which likely didn't have FMS or EFIS) There were several landings on that taxiway over the years by a few airlines.
You got to give them credit for not running off the end though.
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A Northwest Airlines DC-9 landed at Fargo Airforce base years back. In the US you have many cases of a city airport only a few miles from an Airforce base... same runway alignment and US controllers are always happy to give you a visual to get you out of their hair.

A Canadian Global Air Ambulance Learjet 35 landed on a 1/4 mile dragstrip in Aruba after accepting a visual. Make sure you are 100% sure of the runway sighting of the airport you want to land at before asking for a visual... especially in unfamiliar areas.
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Having lunch last week with one of the old Conair pilots and he was talking about their big reunion...so I filled him in on a very screwy situation in Moose Jaw.

I was controlling R 28R when one of the many Tutors in the circuit advised a flock of "Turkeys" about 10 west lined up with R 10L. I had the Tutors maintain circuit altitude until the "visitors" made their move. The "Turkeys" were Conair Avengers heading to the East coast but not talking to me...5 a/c landed on 10L...3 taxiied off at "B" ...the 2 on the runway did a 180 with about 3000' remaining took-off with a right turn followed closely by the 3 on the ramp...still not talking to me.

They were all on Regina tower frequency thinking that they were landing 09 at Regina...funny how the 10L painted on the runway did not tweek any of them

Hans was going to use it as blackmail during the reunion...for beers no doubt.
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Hedley wrote:
Transport fined her $100 bucks and sent her
on her merry way.
Did they offer her a senior post? :mrgreen:
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When I was in college, a couple of classmates had a bit of shock when a Citation asked them to vacate the runway at International Falls as they were short final and about to land.. understandable, except the Citation had mistaken Fort Francis for International Falls.

Unfortunately mistakes like these can happen to anyone regardless of their experience.
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FICU wrote:A Northwest Airlines DC-9 landed at Fargo Airforce base years back.
just to clarify...

Northwest has NEVER landed a DC-9, or any other aircraft for that matter, at "Fargo Air Force Base".

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Seems to me it´s sort of human to make a mistake if there´s another airport on the approach path just before the intended destination. Probably what happened here with the Turkish.

Two more cases:

- Spantax in 1967. The CV990 with the chief pilot at the controls, destination Hamburg International. Just so happens that on the approach path, some 13 km before where he was going, there´s Hamburg Finkenwerder - and that´s where he put the plane down. The only runway was only 1360 meters long at the time :shock:

- TUR European Airways in 1991. The B727 was heading for Helsinki-Vantaa International and was cleared to land on rwy 33. Just so happens there´s a general aviation airport, Helsinki-Malmi on the approach path 4 nautical miles in front. Witnesses say he was at 250 ft AGL with gear and flaps down over the GA airport before realizing his mistake

In his defence, rwy 33 is the only rwy at Helsinki-Vantaa without an ILS so he was shooting a VOR DME approach but still, one look at his DME should have told him there were 4 more miles to go

Ever since that incident, there´s a special warning about not making a mistake about the 2 airports on the rwy 33 approach plate
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Redtail wrote: just to clarify...

Northwest has NEVER landed a DC-9, or any other aircraft for that matter, at "Fargo Air Force Base".
My mistake... bad memory... just to clarify... I knew it was in the general area...
ST. PAUL, Minn. - A Northwest Airlines flight that was headed to Rapid City, S.D., landed a few miles off course at . Air Force Base, and passengers had to wait in the plane for more than three hours while their crew was interrogated.

Passengers on Northwest Flight 1152, an Airbus A-319 from St. Paul, expected to be welcomed to Rapid City Regional Airport on Saturday, but after about five minutes they were told to close their window shades and not look out, said passenger Robert Morrell.

"He (the pilot) hemmed and he hawed and he said 'We have landed at an Air Force base a few miles from the Rapid City airport and now we are going to figure out how we're going to get from here to there,'" Morrell told the St. Paul Pioneer Press by cell phone during the delay Saturday.

Eventually, the captain and first officer were replaced by a different Northwest crew for the short hop to the right airport.

Northwest confirmed that the crew made an "unscheduled landing."

"The situation is under review and we have nothing further to add," said Northwest spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch. He would not identify the cockpit crew, or say if the pilot made an error.

. controls all air space 40 miles around the base and clears landings at both the civilian airport and the base.

The city's airport runway is "just over the hill" from ., and the Northwest crew had to descend through a layer of clouds, said a base spokeswoman, Lt. Christine Millette.
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I think a number of years ago Air Nova landed its Dash 8 at Rimouski and it was supposed to go to Mont Joli.
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Hehe yeah I heard about that Air Canada at SEATAC incident before, when I was advised to always tune the ILS or appropriate nav aid whether visual or IMC
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student_Aviator77 wrote:The one thing it tells me is to keep my eyes and ears open and check everything twice during my career.
That's excellent advice you just gave yourself. Because the moment you start to think something can't happen to you...it does.
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+1, Rockie
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