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[Sheila]

Charring Meat May Boost Risk of Pancreatic Cancer

TUESDAY, April 21 (HealthDay News) -- You may love your steak well done, but eating burned or charred meat may increase your risk of pancreatic cancer, a new study suggests.

Researchers used data on the meat intake, preferred cooking methods and doneness preferences of nearly 63,000 participants taking part in the Prostate, Lung, Colorectal and Ovarian Multi-Center Screening Trial

Over the course of nine years, 208 developed pancreatic cancer.

Meat-eaters who preferred their steak very well done were almost 60 percent more likely to get pancreatic cancer compared to those who ate steak less well done or did not eat steak.

Researchers then estimated carcinogen intake based on overall meat consumption and doneness preferences. Those with highest intake had 70 percent higher risk than those with the lowest intake.

Frying, grilling or barbecuing meat to the point of charring can form carcinogens, which do not form when meat is baked or stewed, explained Kristin Anderson, an associate professor at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health.

The study was to be presented Tuesday at the American Association for Cancer Research annual meeting, in Denver.
Anderson suggesting cooking meat thoroughly enough to kill bacteria but avoiding charring. The precursors of cancer-causing compounds can also be reduced by microwaving the meat for a few minutes and pouring off the juices before cooking it on the grill.

"We cannot say with absolute certainty that the risk is increased due to carcinogens formed in burned meat," Anderson said. "However, those who enjoy either fried or barbecued meat should consider turning down the heat or cutting off burned portions when it's finished."

More information
The American Cancer Society has more on pancreatic cancer.

Link between charbroiled meat and breast cancer: U.S. studies
Last Updated: Thursday, April 6, 2000 | 3:29 PM ET
CBC News
You may think twice before taking a bite out of that flame-broiled steak. New studies are pointing to a link between well-done meat and breast cancer risk.

In the first study, Dr. Rashmi Sinha, a researcher with the Iowa Women's Health Study, says they found no association with total meat consumption or red meat consumption — but they did find a two-fold risk of breast cancer in women who consumed the most-well-done meat compared with those who ate less-cooked meat.

The studies were presented at a meeting of the American Association for Cancer Research.

This might be plenty enough linkages for me, who can wait another nine years for them to say, "it does increase the risk"?

[Just another canuck]

Good thing medium rare means well done to me... I like rare or blue rare if it's the right cut.

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If you do the math, it means that if you have 63,000 people and 208 get cancer, that's a third of a one percent chance of getting it. Statistically pretty crap to show a correlation.

Now were all of the people in the group non-smoking, non-drinking, non-obese, no cancer running in the family people? And there was a control group that ate and behaved exactly like the experimental group? This university statistics student doesn't buy the hype.

I'll do whatever the hell I want to do with my meat.

I'll watch it, I'll season it, if it gets to hard, I'll beat it till its soft, but I'm not gonna do a damn thing differently when I cook up a nice fat steak over the fire pit when I go camping!

-istp

[Changes in Latitudes]

I'll do whatever the hell I want to do with my meat.

if it gets to hard, I'll beat it till its soft
-istp

[b1ngnx33]

Mmmmm....meat.

Risk of disease from meat? Oh really?

You don't say?

*eating more meat*

Well, I must say this famous line.

"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" -- Some line from some movie.

[niss]

Watching my meat leads to playing with my meat, and if I play with my meat, I will go blind....

Now tell me Sheila, how the @#$! will I be able to watch my meat when I am blind?

[bmc]

I love studies like that. 208 out of 63,000 and we're not going to look at other criteria such as over diet, etc.

BTW, did you know that 68.27 percent of all statistics are made up?

[Siddley Hawker]

...if it gets to hard, I'll beat it till its soft..

Don't worry about it lad, yer just tenderizing it.

What this country needs is a meat registry. Get Alberta to finance it.

[Sheila]

Watching my meat leads to playing with my meat, and if I play with my meat, I will go blind....

Now tell me Sheila, how the @#$! will I be able to watch my meat when I am blind?

No need to be rude niss. I was trying to make it sound less of a warning.

Don't worry about it lad, yer just tenderizing it.

What this country needs is a meat registry. Get Alberta to finance it.

So there was something in the news awhile back about the experts saying our population should switch our diets to less meat and eggs and more non animal products because it would help starving people. If thats true, and they want us to switch then they would try to take away our meats by poisoning it or by scaring us.
I'm thinking because we had a meat recall from Safeway a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't heard anymore since.

[Doc]

So there was something in the news awhile back about the experts saying our population should switch our diets to less meat and eggs and more non animal products because it would help starving people. If thats true, and they want us to switch then they would try to take away our meats by poisoning it or by scaring us.
I'm thinking because we had a meat recall from Safeway a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't heard anymore since.

Where DO come up with this? "Eat more non animal products because it would help starving people...." You're off your meds again, aren't you, Sheila.

[Sheila]

I swear it was on the national news but I took these points from the vegan society website
People- Livestock eat soy and grain, while people starve.
Animals - Livestock means animal exploitation.
The Planet - Go vegan to cut your eco-footprint.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/dec/2 ... mas.famine

[Chickaddd]

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Well since we're on fun cow stats, did you know a cow produces more greenhouse gases in one year than a Rangerover driven 20,000 km?

And since we're on fun car stats, a Toyota Prius produces more pollution in its lifetime than a Hummer!

[ottawa,kan]

You can feed a cow and it's calf a diet of total grass, nothing else. There's no need to ever feed a cow corn or soybeans, and you can pasture land to grass that would never support row crops like soybeans. The problem with the PETA idiots is they don't know shit about agriculture. Beef bound cattle only eat grain for the last 1/3 or so of their life, and then only part grain. Most of what they get is silage or brewers grain from ethanol plants and ground hay or alfalfa.

[BibleMonkey]

Well since we're on fun cow stats, did you know a cow produces more greenhouse gases in one year than a Rangerover driven 20,000 km?

That's sounds like a pretty tough cow. I need some new cow transportation after my last Balloon-cow-broken-rope incident.




I will give you $400 for that cow-$500 if she takes me over 21,000 km and you throw in a really good rope.......

[HS-748 2A]

Don't eat red meat. Eat seafood.

[Hedley]

Not to insult anyone's meat, but ....

I like boobs.

[beaverbob]

[quote]Well since we're on fun cow stats, did you know a cow produces more greenhouse gases in one year than a Rangerover driven 20,000 km?

And since we're on fun car stats, a Toyota Prius produces more pollution in its lifetime than a Hummer!/quote]


How does a Hummer cause greenhouse gas?
Could it be all the heavy breathing?

BB

[HS-748 2A]