Hicks and Lawrence

ptc · Post by **ptc** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:14 am

Not sure if this thread has been done before but I thought I would ask if anyone has info on there minimums and what they are like to work for

bandaid · Post by **bandaid** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:43 am

I moved it into General as it is not a Job Ad.

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:45 am

Good company to work for and a good way to build MPIC time especially if you work during a very active fire season.

Summer of 2003 most detection pilots did around 400 hours whereas 2004 it was down around 200 hours (couldn't have lit the bush with napalm last summer in Ontario).

Minimums are 1000 hours total time with 100 multi. This is an Ontario Government requirement for VFR multi engine aircraft carrying Ministry personnel.

ptc · Post by **ptc** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:45 am

Thanks for the info

joebloggs · Post by **joebloggs** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:10 pm

Correct me if I am wrong but they fly those mix masters and as far as I know that is not classified as conventional multi pic anymore but centerline thrust. Just how relevant that is in getting your next job would depend on your future employer.

Loud&Dirty · Post by **Loud&Dirty** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:12 pm

Well we keep getting hired by other companies after working there so it must count.

neechi · Post by **neechi** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:33 pm

It’s still Multi PIC according to TC. The only problem u might run into is if you do your multi rating on one you wouldn’t be able to fly conventional twins until you did a conversion.

I know that Thunder hires H/L guys so there is at least one company that doesn’t care about the difference.

Nice flying plane with great vis but its like a bloody greenhouse in the summer.

Can anyone touch on the pay there? By the day/hour/month ?

Thanks

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:40 pm

The time still counts in the MPIC column in the logbook which is important in Ontario if you want to move to a company that does a lot of medevac flying. Obviously you should have your conventional twin rating and your Group 1 if you want to go anywhere after Hicks.

I know people from Hicks that have gone to Thunder Airlines, Flightexec, Voyageur, KFC, and Georgian so they must like our time.

As for the pay...as a detection pilot we were paid a weekly salary. We also received flight pay (per hour) that was paid to us half way through the season and at the end of the season (only payable if you stick around...kind of a retention bonus).

180 · Post by **180** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:52 am

I swung through there at the end of the summer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think their detection pilots were getting paid crap. Something like 80 bucks a day, and 10 bucks per hour if longer than an 8 hour day. Don't know about the retention bonus?

As a dockhand, I was making 100 bucks a day...

CLguy · Post by **CLguy** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:04 am

180 says:

As a dockhand, I was making 100 bucks a day...

And that reflects in your logbook how?

Switchfoot · Post by **Switchfoot** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:03 pm

Web address??

Or other contact information?

Thanks.

Flying Low · Post by **Flying Low** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:39 pm

Try here.

http://www.pilotcareercenter.com/JobRes ... lineID=213

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:07 pm

A google search brings up this:

http://www.hickslawrence.com/

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:46 pm

Good company. I have many friends that have flown with them.

... · Post by **...** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:22 am

The office is accepting resume's now. We want to thank everyone that has shown interest in this company.

Requirements for employment are:

1000 TT
100 MT
We don't charge for training.

Hireing will be done in March...
mail or fax resumes
anticipating a ground school to be done in mid to late March in Southern Ontario.

Please avoid calling the main office as no one is there that can help you...we are on vacation.

if you do need further info...you can email me... iambirddog@hotmail.com

Thanks again.

jimdandy · Post by **jimdandy** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:01 pm

Hey BD, do they ever make exceptions for guys not quite at the min times?

Inverted2 · Post by **Inverted2** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:54 pm

Please avoid calling the main office as no one is there that can help you...we are on vacation.

A permanent vacation?? Did you guys get the OC back yet?

... · Post by **...** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:27 pm

textbook wrote:Hey BD, do they ever make exceptions for guys not quite at the min times?

Whether is car insurance or airplane...insurance companies like to stick it to the consumer.

No...no bending on the min. times

sorry.

... · Post by **...** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:32 pm

Inverted2 wrote:Please avoid calling the main office as no one is there that can help you...we are on vacation.

A permanent vacation?? Did you guys get the OC back yet?

During the "restructuring" of the company...the OC was surrendered for 2 weeks to enable a smooth transition between the two owners. We have had the OC reinstated for over 2 months now.

I'm on/was on vacation...care to see pictures?

pimper · Post by **pimper** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:32 pm

Whats a PPC going for these days in a 337? Or is it even a PPC? Hey guys, today we are going to do engine out procedures. Instead of the airplane being called a Cessna 337 it will be called a Cessna 168.5 for the day!!

I remember a thread where you said you made 3 times what I make in 6 months, which would equal more then half a million dollars. Are you telling me you make over 500 grand a year at hicks and lawrence?

I also believe you were proud of your companies heritage telling everyone about how many Air Canada pilots and so forth have been through the doors, what a joke. Every flight school in Canada could say the same thing. Hell most primary schools could make that claim!!

I have flown in the distant past with pilots who quit hicks in the middle of the summer. The were told by the boss he would sewer them anywhere they went over a 1000 bucks worth of training.

You just made my nite..YOU HICK...ya ya I know I should get out more...

PS I think Sully is looking for a job..maybe he can post some stories about spotting fires!! I can see it now..

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip,
That started from this northern port,
Aboard this tiny ship.

The mate was a mighty Bird Dog man,
Saluko was brave and sure.
NO passengers set sail that day,
For a three hour tour, a three hour tour.

The weather started getting rough,
The tiny ship was tossed,
If not for the courage of the fearless crew,
The SkyMaster would be lost, the SkyMaster would be lost.

golden hawk · Post by **golden hawk** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:09 pm

I am Birddog wrote:
Whether is car insurance or airplane...insurance companies like to stick it to the consumer.

No...no bending on the min. times

sorry.

Is it insurance? I was under the idea it was an MNR requirement.

... · Post by **...** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:47 pm

pimper wrote: Whats a PPC going for these days in a 337? Or is it even a PPC? Hey guys, today we are going to do engine out procedures. Instead of the airplane being called a Cessna 337 it will be called a Cessna 168.5 for the day!!

A little more than your dignity and common sense.

pimper wrote: I remember a thread where you said you made 3 times what I make in 6 months, which would equal more then half a million dollars. Are you telling me you make over 500 grand a year at hicks and lawrence?

Thats because your dumber than a bag of donuts...Your wage is my wardrobe...I'm in aviation for fun...My "livin' large" lifestyle is subsidized by other 'avenues'...

pimper wrote: I also believe you were proud of your companies heritage telling everyone about how many Air Canada pilots and so forth have been through the doors, what a joke. Every flight school in Canada could say the same thing. Hell most primary schools could make that claim!!

Anyone ever tell you it's better to remain silent than to speak and sound like an idiot...

pimper wrote: I have flown in the distant past with pilots who quit hicks in the middle of the summer. The were told by the boss he would sewer them anywhere they went over a 1000 bucks worth of training.

Wow...just how many voices are there in your head?

pimper wrote: You just made my nite..YOU HICK...ya ya I know I should get out more...

Shouldn't you be in a flight deck making excuses? Or do you save that for the bedroom...? By the way...if your wife calls me again, I am gonna have to call the police. Please explain to her that I'm done with her...

... · Post by **...** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:53 pm

golden hawk wrote:
I am Birddog wrote:
Whether is car insurance or airplane...insurance companies like to stick it to the consumer.

No...no bending on the min. times

sorry.
Is it insurance? I was under the idea it was an MNR requirement.

Yes...smart ass..it's spelled INSURANCE...give me some time to get back into a key board....

Yes MNR requirements as well as INSURANCE. Birddog is 3000 TT and 500 MT...and never worked for JetsGo

side note:
Please all those pilots sending in resumes that are presently working for JetsGo...we kindly ask you complete your contract obligations with your present employer before coming over to us. I understand we pay a lot more than JetsGo does it does not make it right.
Thanks again for the interest.

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:54 pm

Pimper is such an appropriate handle for a JG jocky.

BallsDeep · Post by **BallsDeep** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:31 am

Hey Pimpler…don’t bother sitting by the phone, NASA’s not gunna call!!

Sounds like those pilots from the “distant past” …have got some hard feelings towards H&L…perhaps; they were in fact fired, for lacking the skill required in harnessing the shear power of the mighty C168.5. Sh!t, a guy with your obvious astonishing intelligence would fit the description of one of those pilots from the distant past perfectly…hummm…I have to wonder, could these pilots possibly represent YOU in the not so distant past. Or maybe you are telling the truth and some fine organization has managed to collect all you C168.5 rejects…how sad, your kind stinks up this industry.

Hey, Bird Dog…not too worry; pimper’s wife shouldn’t be bothering you anytime soon…
I’ve got her occupied for a while…
I’m BallsDeep…

…in Mrs. Pimper’s mouth