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Jug
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Citation CJ Series

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Are any of the citation CJ series airplanes (CJ1, CJ2, CJ3) certified for single pilot operations in Canada?
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Yes I believe to the best of my knowledge they are all certified single pilot in Canada. The kicker is that because they are turbo-jet they must be operated 704 which means they will need 2 crew. That is the answer for commercial ops. You can get approval from the CBAA to operate them single pilot on a 604 Private Operating Certificate. That being said I am not sure why you would want to? Did you see the Continental Captain that died enroute to Newark in the 777 today? Not to say anything about workload into busy airports. PM me if you would like more info on the subject re: 704 and 604 ops.

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Also Insurance will be troublesome single pilot. I know of one operator that got 604 approval to operate single pilot in a CJ1 but insurance insisted he have another pilot in the right seat. Didn't matter if he was trained, jut any other pilot.
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All of the C525 are single pilot cert. in Canada and U.S.(adding the CJ4 later this year) as long as you meet the requirements of the manufacturer and hold a Single Pilot type rating.
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A highly experienced pro pilot should be fine for insurance.
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Navajo-dude wrote:A highly experienced pro pilot should be fine for insurance.
That would certainly be true if you are not operating the thing into really busy terminal areas. However, if you are operating it into any of the "top 30" terminal areas in North America, then I bet that that 'highly experienced pro pilot' would sure appreciate having another person in the right seat.

A friend of mine owned one of these things for a few years - he operated it privately. His comment was that as far as the aircraft was concerned, it was a pretty simple machine and one pilot could easily handle it. But, he operated it out of Waterloo, up and down the Eastern side of North America, and he always crewed it with two pilots (both of whom were ex-widebody pilots) just because of the communication and navigation workload.

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Hiflyer2 wrote:Also Insurance will be troublesome single pilot. I know of one operator that got 604 approval to operate single pilot in a CJ1 but insurance insisted he have another pilot in the right seat. Didn't matter if he was trained, jut any other pilot.
Change insurance providers. Untrained help can be more dangerous than no help.
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Flying single pilot just takes a different mindset going into a flight you know it is just you up there, you must have strict cockpit management. As stated i would rather be by myself than have somone not rated on the aircraft... well it depends on how she looks1 :D
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