For some reason, I have a hate on for truckers. I hate it when they flash me the high-beams from a mile away at night. Like give it up already. You are not going to go blind from the lights of my Toyota. I wouldn't normally let this bother me, but it happens every single friggin time. The highway is dark at night, and I want it lit up, period. I'll dim them when I think it is prudent. Once, I even had a guy flash his backwards-facing work light as I approached from behind. Gimme a break.
Another one that really chaps my ass is when you are coming up behind one on a divided highway, and when you are within three car lengths, they suddenly decide to pull out and pass the truckers in front of them. WTF, didn't you see me in the mirror, or what?
Maybe I have some road rage issues, but dammit, you don't own the whole road, and neither do I for that matter.
Rant over, maybe.
Truckers
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tripleseven
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Re: Truckers
Have you ever had the opportunity to take a highway trip in a transport truck?
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BibleMonkey
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Re: Truckers
whoa.
Yet another thread where the solution is obviously a trunk monkey
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =551189327
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I can't help but wonder what would happen if both drivers had trunk monkeys though......
Yet another thread where the solution is obviously a trunk monkey
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =551189327
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I can't help but wonder what would happen if both drivers had trunk monkeys though......
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Re: Truckers
First off, give it up and share the road, high beams are a major hazard to oncoming traffic, dim them, early period. Especially if they are poorly aimed right into my friggen eyes or you have the stupid friggin xenon blue shit. Secondly when you are coming from behind guess what my mirrors are setup to REFLECT PEOPLE COMING UP FROM BEHIND so guess where your farking high beams go? Right into my EYES! Guess what tractor trailers do not have alot of excess power and passing needs to be done at the right time. So suck it up butter cup it may take tops 3 mintues for a pass trucks have just as much right to the left lane as you. TFB you will survive not going and extra 20km/h for lets say 5min. Which in case you are wondering is a whopping 200min more. Or for your trip of 100km means you get there about 7.2 second early. Sit back relax, enjoy the trip you will much longer.tripleseven wrote:For some reason, I have a hate on for truckers. I hate it when they flash me the high-beams from a mile away at night. Like give it up already. You are not going to go blind from the lights of my Toyota. I wouldn't normally let this bother me, but it happens every single friggin time. The highway is dark at night, and I want it lit up, period. I'll dim them when I think it is prudent. Once, I even had a guy flash his backwards-facing work light as I approached from behind. Gimme a break.
Another one that really chaps my ass is when you are coming up behind one on a divided highway, and when you are within three car lengths, they suddenly decide to pull out and pass the truckers in front of them. WTF, didn't you see me in the mirror, or what?
Maybe I have some road rage issues, but dammit, you don't own the whole road, and neither do I for that matter.
Rant over, maybe.
I bet you are one of them dick heads that drives in the left lane all the time and when you get passed you go on a road rage speeding rampage.
Cheers,
200hr Wonder
200hr Wonder
Re: Truckers
200hr Wonder you beat me to it! 
I might have been more diplomatic though, suggesting something like:
"Maybe you need a pair of glasses at night if you can't see anything without your beam.
Or you can slow down too you know"
For passing trucks versus your Toyota, come on! be smart (anticipate) and share the road.
If you still don't get this, reread 200hr Wonder's post.
Now a dump truck forcing itself into a hwy with all its wheels throwing stones rocks and mud everywhere....That's something else and quite a carnage!
I might have been more diplomatic though, suggesting something like:
"Maybe you need a pair of glasses at night if you can't see anything without your beam.
Or you can slow down too you know"
For passing trucks versus your Toyota, come on! be smart (anticipate) and share the road.
If you still don't get this, reread 200hr Wonder's post.
Now a dump truck forcing itself into a hwy with all its wheels throwing stones rocks and mud everywhere....That's something else and quite a carnage!
Re: Truckers
Most truck drivers are amazingly competent and
professional. All I can suggest to car drivers is to
try to help them out a bit.
For example, pulling up to a stop sign or light,
and you see a semi on your right, signalling
left. For crissake, leave some space between
you and the white line, so he has room to turn
left in the intersection.
With a semi behind you, in hilly country, please
let your speed drift up to a solid 15 or 19kph
over the limit at the bottom of the hill, so the
poor trucker has the kinetic energy to avoid
slowing completely down as he climbs the next hill.
If you're behind a semi, position yourself so
that he can see you in his side mirrors.
professional. All I can suggest to car drivers is to
try to help them out a bit.
For example, pulling up to a stop sign or light,
and you see a semi on your right, signalling
left. For crissake, leave some space between
you and the white line, so he has room to turn
left in the intersection.
With a semi behind you, in hilly country, please
let your speed drift up to a solid 15 or 19kph
over the limit at the bottom of the hill, so the
poor trucker has the kinetic energy to avoid
slowing completely down as he climbs the next hill.
If you're behind a semi, position yourself so
that he can see you in his side mirrors.
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Chuck Ellsworth
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Re: Truckers
WOW, ignorance is forgivable but that kind of ignorance is hard to understand.I hate it when they flash me the high-beams from a mile away at night. Like give it up already. You are not going to go blind from the lights of my Toyota. I wouldn't normally let this bother me, but it happens every single friggin time. The highway is dark at night, and I want it lit up, period. I'll dim them when I think it is prudent.
So you want the highway lit up do you?
The truck drivers want to be able to see without some ignorant on comming Toyota driver blinding them with their high beams on.
The most difficult thing about flying is knowing when to say no.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
Re: Truckers
Having worked in the transport industry for quite some time, I find the pro-truck responses to tripleseven gratifying. For the past couple of years I have quietly observed Avcanada as a "guest"(or some would suggest,"lurker"!!). Aviation can certainly provoke emotional responses from people, and Avcanada has provided a front row seat for all to observe (or engage). After two years of observing Avcanada "personalities", I'll admit I cringed slightly when reading 777's post. Cringed because I expected Avcanadian "flamers" to single-handily bash the transport industry. Transport trucks are the largest vehicles on the road and hence, always targeted by the motoring public as the problem with today's highways. Much too my relief, just when one is ready to write off Avcanada, the more open minded(and life experienced) posters on this site moved to the defence of trucking. For this, I thank you.
Tripleseven, several points. For starters, as the song goes, "free your mind, and the rest will follow....". Perhaps a ride in a transport truck (known in the industry as, get this,..."Big Truck") will inform you as to life in the transport "rat race". Generally, our life (as is everyone else) is hectic enough without having to play idiotic games with motorists (known in the industry as "four-wheelers"). These four-wheeler "pilots" have no respect for physics involving high speed and heavy chunks of steel. The modern, well engineered automobile has lulled the average driver into thinking that this quiet, smooth running "cocoon" is indestructible. I feel this in turn, has eroded the skill level of our modern day driver. With regards to the "high-beam" irritants, keep in mind that a transport driver sits at a higher "altitude" than yourself. High beam light rays affect truck drivers sooner than lower riding cars because the beam is aimed at a slightly higher angle, thereby exposing the truck driver to longer lumen intensity. You imply this high beam "flashing" happens quite often. I would suggest these are not isolated incidents created by cranky truck drivers, but rather improperly aimed headlights on your Toyota, or your unwillingness to dim the lights at a reasonable distance.
Regarding the statement about "backwards-facing work light" flashing, may I suggest you consider the following. Ever have a car come up behind you with very bright lights? Ticked you off didn't it? Damn near blinded you didn't it? No doubt all that bright light was reflected from your car mirrors into your eyes, destroying what night vision you had. The next time you pass a transport truck, observe the size of it's mirrors. I'm willing to bet these mirrors exceed the surface area of all your car mirrors by at least four times. Now consider sitting in a truck cab and having four times the amount of light streaming into your eyes. Truck drivers do not flick their back up lights on and off for some form of perverse pleasure. With our luck being the way that it is, the car driver would have some "light-sensitive" spastic reaction and swerve into the median at 100 km/h. While this would probably result in some spectacular end-over-end cart-wheeling through the median, the unnecessary blood loss and mounds of paperwork for the truck driver ensure we always try to avoid this scenario.
The human species is fairly predictible. In my years of driving, I can say with almost 100 percent certainty, that the moment I flick on my left hand signal to move into the passing lane, some four wheeler will attempt to block me because he/she does not want to be stuck behind a big truck. In response to this action, I always wait to the last possible moment before signalling a lane change. Tripleseven, I could write paragraphs about "our" side of the story, but rather, why don't you observe what's going on around you, and ask yourself how you would respond if you were driving that truck. If I miss the opportunity to get into the passing lane, I'll be slamming on the brakes, losing my momentum, probably downshifting one or two gears, and eventually taking two or three miles to get back where I started. However, when I finally do catch up, said car now gets "nervous" and decides to speed up (usually going uphill) and then slows down (always going downhill!). At this point, I'm pretty frustrated and swear I'll never miss that passing opportunity again. This happens ALL THE TIME on our highways.
Admittedly, during my years of driving, I have a developed a cynicism toward the motoring public. This cynicism is partially fueled by my growing contempt of our hypocritical human society. The carrier that I drive for has all it's trucks "governed" at 100km/h. In fact, most transport trucks are speed regulated at 110, or less (yes trip7, remember that when it appears we are purposely passing slow...ain't nothing we can do about it). That makes me about the slowest vehicle on the road. Slowest because I would suggest the average speed on Ontario's 401 is probably about 117km/h. These righteous everyday Canadians are telling everone else to mind the environment, but get outta my way....I gotta go! Emissions and gasoline burn at 120km/h vs. 100km/h? Oh, it's nothing....really!! As I sit in my cab and watch these self declared environmentalist's zip by, I just chuckle. Hypocrisy. Canadian-style. So, as admitted earlier, my cynicism at times influences my "professional" judgement. This type of scenario usually plays out when hell-bent four wheelers try to push their way through different traffic situations. Most of time, the end result is "soiled" clothing on behalf of the aggressive four wheeler. This resultant is about the only "justice", or satisfaction(or entertainment!) we truck drivers get! If we took all of Canada's car drivers (with their mentalities) and placed them in control of a our transport fleets, we WOULD have highway carnage. So Tripleseven.....work with us....we're just tryin' to get the goods to your grocery store....10-4??!!!
And in closing, some good ol' Avcanada cliches......
Hav at 'er.....and,
Just my .02!!!
Happy Trails everyone!!!!
Tripleseven, several points. For starters, as the song goes, "free your mind, and the rest will follow....". Perhaps a ride in a transport truck (known in the industry as, get this,..."Big Truck") will inform you as to life in the transport "rat race". Generally, our life (as is everyone else) is hectic enough without having to play idiotic games with motorists (known in the industry as "four-wheelers"). These four-wheeler "pilots" have no respect for physics involving high speed and heavy chunks of steel. The modern, well engineered automobile has lulled the average driver into thinking that this quiet, smooth running "cocoon" is indestructible. I feel this in turn, has eroded the skill level of our modern day driver. With regards to the "high-beam" irritants, keep in mind that a transport driver sits at a higher "altitude" than yourself. High beam light rays affect truck drivers sooner than lower riding cars because the beam is aimed at a slightly higher angle, thereby exposing the truck driver to longer lumen intensity. You imply this high beam "flashing" happens quite often. I would suggest these are not isolated incidents created by cranky truck drivers, but rather improperly aimed headlights on your Toyota, or your unwillingness to dim the lights at a reasonable distance.
Regarding the statement about "backwards-facing work light" flashing, may I suggest you consider the following. Ever have a car come up behind you with very bright lights? Ticked you off didn't it? Damn near blinded you didn't it? No doubt all that bright light was reflected from your car mirrors into your eyes, destroying what night vision you had. The next time you pass a transport truck, observe the size of it's mirrors. I'm willing to bet these mirrors exceed the surface area of all your car mirrors by at least four times. Now consider sitting in a truck cab and having four times the amount of light streaming into your eyes. Truck drivers do not flick their back up lights on and off for some form of perverse pleasure. With our luck being the way that it is, the car driver would have some "light-sensitive" spastic reaction and swerve into the median at 100 km/h. While this would probably result in some spectacular end-over-end cart-wheeling through the median, the unnecessary blood loss and mounds of paperwork for the truck driver ensure we always try to avoid this scenario.
The human species is fairly predictible. In my years of driving, I can say with almost 100 percent certainty, that the moment I flick on my left hand signal to move into the passing lane, some four wheeler will attempt to block me because he/she does not want to be stuck behind a big truck. In response to this action, I always wait to the last possible moment before signalling a lane change. Tripleseven, I could write paragraphs about "our" side of the story, but rather, why don't you observe what's going on around you, and ask yourself how you would respond if you were driving that truck. If I miss the opportunity to get into the passing lane, I'll be slamming on the brakes, losing my momentum, probably downshifting one or two gears, and eventually taking two or three miles to get back where I started. However, when I finally do catch up, said car now gets "nervous" and decides to speed up (usually going uphill) and then slows down (always going downhill!). At this point, I'm pretty frustrated and swear I'll never miss that passing opportunity again. This happens ALL THE TIME on our highways.
Admittedly, during my years of driving, I have a developed a cynicism toward the motoring public. This cynicism is partially fueled by my growing contempt of our hypocritical human society. The carrier that I drive for has all it's trucks "governed" at 100km/h. In fact, most transport trucks are speed regulated at 110, or less (yes trip7, remember that when it appears we are purposely passing slow...ain't nothing we can do about it). That makes me about the slowest vehicle on the road. Slowest because I would suggest the average speed on Ontario's 401 is probably about 117km/h. These righteous everyday Canadians are telling everone else to mind the environment, but get outta my way....I gotta go! Emissions and gasoline burn at 120km/h vs. 100km/h? Oh, it's nothing....really!! As I sit in my cab and watch these self declared environmentalist's zip by, I just chuckle. Hypocrisy. Canadian-style. So, as admitted earlier, my cynicism at times influences my "professional" judgement. This type of scenario usually plays out when hell-bent four wheelers try to push their way through different traffic situations. Most of time, the end result is "soiled" clothing on behalf of the aggressive four wheeler. This resultant is about the only "justice", or satisfaction(or entertainment!) we truck drivers get! If we took all of Canada's car drivers (with their mentalities) and placed them in control of a our transport fleets, we WOULD have highway carnage. So Tripleseven.....work with us....we're just tryin' to get the goods to your grocery store....10-4??!!!
And in closing, some good ol' Avcanada cliches......
Hav at 'er.....and,
Just my .02!!!
Happy Trails everyone!!!!
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iflyforpie
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Re: Truckers
Make sure your headlights are properly aligned. This is probably the cause of all the flashing. Low beams misaligned are as bright as high beams.
But I do really hate when truckers pull out to pass the other truck going 5 km/h slower on the only passing lane for miles, and then have to pull in behind the slower truck after the lane runs out.
But I do really hate when truckers pull out to pass the other truck going 5 km/h slower on the only passing lane for miles, and then have to pull in behind the slower truck after the lane runs out.
Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?
Re: Truckers
Lovely post, SkySailor - it's nice to see some thoughtful words once in a while!SkySailor wrote:So Tripleseven.....work with us....we're just tryin' to get the goods to your grocery store....10-4??!!!
And in closing, some good ol' Avcanada cliches......
Hav at 'er.....and,
Just my .02!!!
Happy Trails everyone!!!!
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Chuck Ellsworth
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Re: Truckers
Lovely post, SkySailor - it's nice to see some thoughtful words once in a while!
As a former truck driver the only other comment I would make is the very fact that the trucks are asking you to dim your lights must mean something?
Maybe you are blinding them with your lights?
I often wonder why some pilots are so dense.
The most difficult thing about flying is knowing when to say no.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
Re: Truckers
Here's another reason to hate Truckers...
CAN'T YOU BELIEVE THIS $HIT!?! A show on the History channel about driving a truck....on the ice. Let's see. I'm in a truck and I'm driving...on the ice.
I'm in a truck......and I'm driving.......on the ice.
I'm sending an idea to the History Channel people....
"Walking" or "The Tallest"
Well, anyone know where I can buy another Plasma TV...my insurance people aren't buying me a third one I'm affraid. There's so many times I can use the "a steel toed boot shaped bird flew into it" excuse...
CAN'T YOU BELIEVE THIS $HIT!?! A show on the History channel about driving a truck....on the ice. Let's see. I'm in a truck and I'm driving...on the ice.
I'm in a truck......and I'm driving.......on the ice.
I'm sending an idea to the History Channel people....
"Walking" or "The Tallest"
Well, anyone know where I can buy another Plasma TV...my insurance people aren't buying me a third one I'm affraid. There's so many times I can use the "a steel toed boot shaped bird flew into it" excuse...
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Justjohn
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Re: Truckers
Iabd, I'm normally with you , but this time . . . pound salt buddy. Going down the road inna snow storm is like . . the last 30 sec's of an ILS to mins . . . . . FOR HOURS AND HOURS !
profanity edited,Lil
it's way harder than you think
John
profanity edited,Lil
it's way harder than you think
John
Flying is better than walking. Walking is better than running. Running is better than crawling. All of these however, are better than extraction by a Med-Evac, even if this is technically a form of flying.
Re: Truckers
Justjohn wrote:Iabd, I'm normally with you , but this time . . . pound salt buddy. Going down the road inna snow storm is like . . the last 30 sec's of an ILS to mins . . . . . FOR HOURS AND HOURS !
profanity edited,Lil
it's way harder than you think
John
BUah haha You got edited by Lil...I guess you have a truckers mouth 
I'm not sayin' it does not have it's challenges.
Here's my point. In fact...I'll let Mr. Doug Stanhope explain it to you. Ironically we share the same point of view on TV and TV reality shows and the people that watch them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWBs1iWZchc
Re: Truckers
Thanks to all the positive replies folks! Clearly, a lot of people can relate to life on the highway. In a lot of ways, it's very similar to commercial aviation. ., a former truck driver? WOW, what have you not done?! Wish I could trade some of my driving hours for your flight time! But, sounds like you already have the "truck time".
Lilfssister, just curious about the profanity editing on JJ's post. Clearly, JustJohn feels quite passionate about trucking too the point of suggesting "F*** Off". However, if one reads the bottom of every "I am Birddog" post, we can highlight "......@#$! the Yankee's". The confusion here is what exactly is "profanity" on Avcanada? On one hand, it's not ok to say "F**K OFF", but on the other hand, it's ok to say "@#$! the Yankee's"??!!! Please define!!!!
Apologies for such extensive use of a rather primitive word. It is offensive, and not necessary. But really, what is the standard here?
Lilfssister, just curious about the profanity editing on JJ's post. Clearly, JustJohn feels quite passionate about trucking too the point of suggesting "F*** Off". However, if one reads the bottom of every "I am Birddog" post, we can highlight "......@#$! the Yankee's". The confusion here is what exactly is "profanity" on Avcanada? On one hand, it's not ok to say "F**K OFF", but on the other hand, it's ok to say "@#$! the Yankee's"??!!! Please define!!!!
Apologies for such extensive use of a rather primitive word. It is offensive, and not necessary. But really, what is the standard here?
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The difference is it is artistic and non-directional vs. vulgar and directed....SkySailor wrote: Lilfssister, just curious about the profanity editing on JJ's post. Clearly, JustJohn feels quite passionate about trucking too the point of suggesting "F*** Off". However, if one reads the bottom of every "I am Birddog" post, we can highlight "......@#$! the Yankee's". The confusion here is what exactly is "profanity" on Avcanada? On one hand, it's not ok to say "F**K OFF", but on the other hand, it's ok to say "@#$! the Yankee's"??!!! Please define!!!!
Apologies for such extensive use of a rather primitive word. It is offensive, and not necessary. But really, what is the standard here?
yeah....you're right though...I'll lead by example I guess... 
However I suspect you're a Yankee fan and that's the real reason you're "offended" fyi...Lil can't moderate my signature...
Re: Truckers
I am Birddog.
"Art", in today's world, has a pretty broad interpretation. For instance, you might think the word "F*** " is an "artistic" expression, but walk into an arts museum, view a pile of dog shit and see no artistic value at all. The dog pile artist would beg to differ of course! The point is, you view art differently than others. Where the conflict begins, is when a person (such as yourself) gets to pick and choose what defines "art", and then enforce a potentially confusing rule. Was it really vulgar or was it really art?
Oh geez....I'm becoming a typical Avcanadian.....aaaaargh!! (Whats worse is I'm "hijacking" this thread.)
So, do you lead by example and remove the potentially artsy, vulgar, ".....@#$! the Yankee's", or do we continue to use asterisks, while you get to spell the whole F word???!!!! Cheers!!
And NO, this has nothing to do with "Yankee's".
"Art", in today's world, has a pretty broad interpretation. For instance, you might think the word "F*** " is an "artistic" expression, but walk into an arts museum, view a pile of dog shit and see no artistic value at all. The dog pile artist would beg to differ of course! The point is, you view art differently than others. Where the conflict begins, is when a person (such as yourself) gets to pick and choose what defines "art", and then enforce a potentially confusing rule. Was it really vulgar or was it really art?
Oh geez....I'm becoming a typical Avcanadian.....aaaaargh!! (Whats worse is I'm "hijacking" this thread.)
So, do you lead by example and remove the potentially artsy, vulgar, ".....@#$! the Yankee's", or do we continue to use asterisks, while you get to spell the whole F word???!!!! Cheers!!
And NO, this has nothing to do with "Yankee's".
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Justjohn
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"artistic" eh ? well, there you go
FWIW, IABD, you prob'ly worked for Nationair at about the same time as my Dad, so I know you've been 'around'
But for Tripple 7 and the others, it really is way harder than you think. Just because you go down the road in your car, you think you know all about driving !
Been to CYQM or CYFC lately .. ?
Well guess what, you guys are the rookies.
As for my credentials, ... 2 million KM in tractor trailers in All 10 provinces and 47 of the lower 48.
also, ATPL and a Captain flying Reg Sched on the East Coast with over 4 K TT.
I friggen Hate driving and if I never drove again it would be like winning the 649. But every weekend I inna truck just so I can make flying work ( that is the real tragedy ).
Don't Dismiss what you don't understand.
Also, with an oncoming car with the High beams on, I start by flashing my yellow collision lights. If that doesn't work, High Beams ON. I need to see Too Damnitt. Same with a car coming up behind with high beams. First flash the trailer collisions, then On go the Work lights.
'LIL SIS' you if you don't like it !
FWIW, IABD, you prob'ly worked for Nationair at about the same time as my Dad, so I know you've been 'around'
But for Tripple 7 and the others, it really is way harder than you think. Just because you go down the road in your car, you think you know all about driving !
Been to CYQM or CYFC lately .. ?
Well guess what, you guys are the rookies.
As for my credentials, ... 2 million KM in tractor trailers in All 10 provinces and 47 of the lower 48.
also, ATPL and a Captain flying Reg Sched on the East Coast with over 4 K TT.
I friggen Hate driving and if I never drove again it would be like winning the 649. But every weekend I inna truck just so I can make flying work ( that is the real tragedy ).
Don't Dismiss what you don't understand.
Also, with an oncoming car with the High beams on, I start by flashing my yellow collision lights. If that doesn't work, High Beams ON. I need to see Too Damnitt. Same with a car coming up behind with high beams. First flash the trailer collisions, then On go the Work lights.
'LIL SIS' you if you don't like it !
Flying is better than walking. Walking is better than running. Running is better than crawling. All of these however, are better than extraction by a Med-Evac, even if this is technically a form of flying.
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Re: Truckers
Do a lot of truckers change to aviation to do the same thing but for better money as well?SkySailor wrote:In a lot of ways, it's very similar to commercial aviation.
She’s built like a Steakhouse, but she handles like a Bistro.
Let's kick the tires, and light the fires.... SHIT! FIRE! EMERGENCY CHECKLIST!
Let's kick the tires, and light the fires.... SHIT! FIRE! EMERGENCY CHECKLIST!
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Justjohn
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Actually, is the other way around at least for me. Last Full year driving I made $73, 000 and home every night. Was driving for Tim H's. Never brought a Lunch !
Cap'tn on a 'ho .... 29,500. ... plus Per Diems
I have a Crazy obsession with Airplanes that I can't even explain to myself.
john
Cap'tn on a 'ho .... 29,500. ... plus Per Diems
I have a Crazy obsession with Airplanes that I can't even explain to myself.
john
Flying is better than walking. Walking is better than running. Running is better than crawling. All of these however, are better than extraction by a Med-Evac, even if this is technically a form of flying.
Re: Truckers
NISS......"better money"....HAHA, too funny!
It would appear that if one can stick at, and ride the lucky wave, commercial aviation will pay at some point before the doc takes away your medical. But this is another debate.
I pull out my CPL every once in a while and look it over. Who knows what the future holds. At this point, recreational flying is my goal. Trucking pays the bills, recreational flying will burn the cash. It's a compromise......
It would appear that if one can stick at, and ride the lucky wave, commercial aviation will pay at some point before the doc takes away your medical. But this is another debate.
I pull out my CPL every once in a while and look it over. Who knows what the future holds. At this point, recreational flying is my goal. Trucking pays the bills, recreational flying will burn the cash. It's a compromise......
Re: Truckers
Here's the deal regarding the loose rule on that. I don't like censorship, unless someone is being a complete DOUCHEBAG and getting personal...then yes, they gotta go.SkySailor wrote:I am Birddog.
"Art", in today's world, has a pretty broad interpretation. For instance, you might think the word "F*** " is an "artistic" expression, but walk into an arts museum, view a pile of dog shit and see no artistic value at all. The dog pile artist would beg to differ of course! The point is, you view art differently than others. Where the conflict begins, is when a person (such as yourself) gets to pick and choose what defines "art", and then enforce a potentially confusing rule. Was it really vulgar or was it really art?
Oh geez....I'm becoming a typical Avcanadian.....aaaaargh!! (Whats worse is I'm "hijacking" this thread.)
So, do you lead by example and remove the potentially artsy, vulgar, ".....@#$! the Yankee's", or do we continue to use asterisks, while you get to spell the whole F word???!!!! Cheers!!
And NO, this has nothing to do with "Yankee's".
I explained this in a recent thread "other thread gone" or something like that. Regarding the use of the F word...the unwritten rule is...if you're throwing that word in general context...fine, if you must, because sometimes that is too good of a word to let go away in censor space when one expressing themselves. That's is only MY opinion and I don't speak for the rest of the gang.
However if you're telling someone to "@#$! off" or "you're a fucking asshole" etc etc...I think there are more creative ways of doing that without using that word in direct context to offend someone. Also there really is no need to offend anyone to the point of piss off because it's just a forum...who cares really that much to get that upset. That's just fucking dumb
...see? I managed to slip that in without directing it @ anyone Keep the F bomb in misc., don't use it in any other forum and you should be ok!!! BUT...that's just my fucking opinion and it is NOT reflect any of the other profanity edited,Lil mod's.
Re: Truckers
Hey if you know who I am...tell you're father I said hello and I hope he is doing well. And for you...If you are who I think you are I'm happy to hear you're doing great.Justjohn wrote:"artistic" eh ? well, there you go
FWIW, IABD, you prob'ly worked for Nationair at about the same time as my Dad, so I know you've been 'around'
As for my post...NEVER EVER take anything I post in Misc. forums seriously...
fly/truck safely
Re: Truckers
I have too agree with everyones reply, Tripleseven I think you are the problem.
Now the only real beef I have with truckers is when they sit in both lanes at a light. Get in the same lane as the other trucks.
P.S. I could do without all the profanity no matter what the context.
Lurch
Now the only real beef I have with truckers is when they sit in both lanes at a light. Get in the same lane as the other trucks.
P.S. I could do without all the profanity no matter what the context.
Lurch
Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You cannot take the sky from me
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You cannot take the sky from me
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Re: Truckers
Most of the time if someone has their high beams on, no matter how many "wheels" is has, I don't stare at them like a frickin deer! Try looking at bit to the right. It works real good. And, if someone is coming up from behind, I use that little dimmer lever on the mirror. It was put there for a reason. And I'm pretty sure my lights are aimed properly.
As for the argument that you can't pass very good because you are speed limited to 110 kph or you are heavy....GOOD, you shouldn't be going any faster than 110 kph!! There is almost a 13% increase in kinetic energy on a 80,000 lb semi accelerating from 110-117 kph.
One last comment. In the city, if I see a trucker trying to make a wide turn, I stop short of the intersection to give them the room they need. If I see a bus trying to pull out, I move over or whatever. It is the constant light flashing that gets me. Even my wife thinks it is ridiculous.
Fire proof suit is on.
As for the argument that you can't pass very good because you are speed limited to 110 kph or you are heavy....GOOD, you shouldn't be going any faster than 110 kph!! There is almost a 13% increase in kinetic energy on a 80,000 lb semi accelerating from 110-117 kph.
How is that for understanding physics for you?SkySailor wrote:These four-wheeler "pilots" have no respect for physics involving high speed and heavy chunks of steel.
I hate to break it to you, but shifting gears is part of truck driving. If you are "slamming on the brakes, losing my momentum..." you might be following too closely. Back off a bit. I would also venture a guess that 95% of cars on the road are equipped with cruise control, and are not accelerating up hill and slowing down on a downhill. Therefore I call bull.SkySailor wrote:The human species is fairly predictible. In my years of driving, I can say with almost 100 percent certainty, that the moment I flick on my left hand signal to move into the passing lane, some four wheeler will attempt to block me because he/she does not want to be stuck behind a big truck. In response to this action, I always wait to the last possible moment before signalling a lane change. Tripleseven, I could write paragraphs about "our" side of the story, but rather, why don't you observe what's going on around you, and ask yourself how you would respond if you were driving that truck. If I miss the opportunity to get into the passing lane, I'll be slamming on the brakes, losing my momentum, probably downshifting one or two gears, and eventually taking two or three miles to get back where I started. However, when I finally do catch up, said car now gets "nervous" and decides to speed up (usually going uphill) and then slows down (always going downhill!). At this point, I'm pretty frustrated and swear I'll never miss that passing opportunity again. This happens ALL THE TIME on our highways.
One last comment. In the city, if I see a trucker trying to make a wide turn, I stop short of the intersection to give them the room they need. If I see a bus trying to pull out, I move over or whatever. It is the constant light flashing that gets me. Even my wife thinks it is ridiculous.
Fire proof suit is on.
