"A Crisis in Flight Training"

[Cadismack]

Albeit an American perspective, are there any thoughts on how this relates to Canadian Aviation?

http://blogs.flyingmag.com/left_seat/20 ... ining.html

[Dust Devil]

How does it cost $100,000 to $200,000 to become a pilot?

[niss]

How does it cost $100,000 to $200,000 to become a pilot?

PPCs.

[FlaplessDork]

The pilot shortage.... I'm still waiting for it after nearly 15 years.

[captain_dc]

No training= Less Pilots

Less Pilots= High demand

High demand = More money for existing Pilots

Bring it on!

Boom and bust boom and bust, its nothing new.

[MDT]

Nobody understands Theory of Flight!

[niss]

Nobody understands Theory of Flight!

Theory of what?

[Dagwood]

How does it cost $100,000 to $200,000 to become a pilot?

Hear ye all Americans, come to any one of Canada's dedicated FTUs where you can get a Full PPL for only $60,000!

[Dust Devil]

How does it cost $100,000 to $200,000 to become a pilot?

PPCs.

I think you are 100% right and if that is the case it's hard to have any sympathy.

[. ._]

Nobody understands Theory of Flight!

That's that thing where you give full power and yank back on the stick, right?

[Big Pistons Forever]

Nobody understands Theory of Flight!

That's that thing where you give full power and yank back on the stick, right?

Theory of flight : attitude + power + money = performance, You obviously were not paying attention during lesson plan 2

[niss]

Nobody understands Theory of Flight!

That's that thing where you give full power and yank back on the stick, right?

Theory of flight : attitude + power + money = performance, You obviously were not paying attention during lesson plan 2

Ok, now you have completely lost me...

When do I buzz the tower?

[Big Pistons Forever]

Albeit an American perspective, are there any thoughts on how this relates to Canadian Aviation?

http://blogs.flyingmag.com/left_seat/20 ... ining.html

The big differance between the US and Canada is for the first time ever, in the US, brand new pilots pretty much fresh out of the CPL MEIFR were, untill very recently, going into the right seat of regional airline turbo props and even jets as their first jobs. This resulted in an explosion of "straight to airline" flight training programs, offered by large schools dedicated to this market, often with some marketing relationship to regional airlines, and fuelled by easy credit, which churned out thousands of wannabe airline pilots every year. These pilots are wiling to take very low pay or even pay for their job (eg Gulfstream airlines) and therefore the airlines have been able to dramatically cut pilot terms and conditions. I think we are seeing a flight training bubble which is about to burst as the combination of extreemly unattractive wages and the inabilty of students to get credit will cause many of the airline pilot mills to either go under, or dramatically cut back their throughput. Whether this will eventually reduce the pilot supply and therefore improve the lot of US regional pilots, remains to be seen

In Canada the above two factors do not really apply. The straight to airline commercial programs operate on a much smaller scale. Most are college programs but they are not the same as US schools because they are educational institutions, not purely commercial enterprises and with one exception are not affiliated with airlines. And again with one small exception, airlines will not hire pilots for CAR 705 airline aircraft untill they at least have an ATPL. I think this is why we have not seen any airline jet copilots making $16,000 dollars a year....yet. That is not to say Canadain terms and conditions have not steadily deteriorated, but we have not sunk to the US lows.