Interviews tip?
What do they ask?
Thanks
Thunder airlines
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blue_side_up
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Ya, hold that thought for 2 yrs. Hahaha.
Basic interview questions, really informal, CP not a bad guy really. Last question will be "and do you have the $XXXX for the bond?". That sucks. But on the bright side(?), they pay it back, with interest, over 2yrs.
IMHO, I thought they were very good to work for. Best Air Taxi operator I worked for, in fact. Flew with some great guys, great maintanance (not often said in Air Taxi), and basically decent company culture. Ya, guys always complain though. The money was ok, not bad to live on in N.Ontario. They were always fair with me in terms of sched, upgrade, etc. I had a good time. Biggest complaint for me was the mileage pay system, which meant that just out of sheer luck you may get a 30% diff in pay cheque from month to month. Pilots don't control the charter bookings, but get paid based on how good it's going. No-one else in the company (mtce, accounting, etc) got paid based on the current fortunes of the charter market. Oh ya, and you live on a pager, but that's just Air Taxi / Medevac for you. The 10 days on / 5 off was a really good schedule in my opinion.
Basic interview questions, really informal, CP not a bad guy really. Last question will be "and do you have the $XXXX for the bond?". That sucks. But on the bright side(?), they pay it back, with interest, over 2yrs.
IMHO, I thought they were very good to work for. Best Air Taxi operator I worked for, in fact. Flew with some great guys, great maintanance (not often said in Air Taxi), and basically decent company culture. Ya, guys always complain though. The money was ok, not bad to live on in N.Ontario. They were always fair with me in terms of sched, upgrade, etc. I had a good time. Biggest complaint for me was the mileage pay system, which meant that just out of sheer luck you may get a 30% diff in pay cheque from month to month. Pilots don't control the charter bookings, but get paid based on how good it's going. No-one else in the company (mtce, accounting, etc) got paid based on the current fortunes of the charter market. Oh ya, and you live on a pager, but that's just Air Taxi / Medevac for you. The 10 days on / 5 off was a really good schedule in my opinion.
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blue_side_up
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Doc,
As a Moderator, I would have expected a better argued response than 'how stupid are you people?'. As a moderator I would have thought it would be more prudent to set an example, rather than reducing yourself to the lowest standard of mud-slinging and name calling. We all have different views on the bond issue, and it's well worth talking about. In fact I don't agree with it, but because it was paid back with interest, I was able to live with it. I think any job should be looked at as a whole. While I disagreed with the bond, the other positives of working for Thunder outweighed that negative. I enjoyed my time there, and they were always completely fair with me in all regards.
As a Moderator, I would have expected a better argued response than 'how stupid are you people?'. As a moderator I would have thought it would be more prudent to set an example, rather than reducing yourself to the lowest standard of mud-slinging and name calling. We all have different views on the bond issue, and it's well worth talking about. In fact I don't agree with it, but because it was paid back with interest, I was able to live with it. I think any job should be looked at as a whole. While I disagreed with the bond, the other positives of working for Thunder outweighed that negative. I enjoyed my time there, and they were always completely fair with me in all regards.
Well Blue_side......if Thunder has a bond, and no actual money is required up front, I'll withdraw that post....but......paying cash is not a bond....even if it's payed back. It's "buying" a job. At least, that's the way I see it. Am I wrong? Perhaps. But "moderator" or not, I, like yourself have opinions. Some popular....some not. I can live with the fact that I beleive putting money up front for a job, is, in fact "buying" that job. And I can live with the fact that I think it takes a certain level of stupidity to allow airlines to continue to "milk" pilots.
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ice ice baby
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What's everyone's opinion of telling a low time applicant, that to separate him/herself from all the other low time pilots they needs to go SOMEWHERE ELSE, buy a PPC, and then they can have a job. I mean they are not asking for your money, just telling you that they would like someone with a bit of experience on type. I barely see the difference else than they are not trying to sell you something. However it's not much different as they are not paying for your training (other than your 2hrs upon hiring.)
No need to withdraw doc, they want the money right away, before training begins. And I agree, if company is treating their people right, there should be no need for them. However, I think the whole thing came up when they had a 'bond' system, (ie: no money up front, just an agreement), and a lot of pilots fucked off, without fulfilling their agreements, and the company was not able to get the money out of the pilots in small claims court, therfore helping to create where we are now. Now, not saying I agree, but I think both pilots and management have created this mess...and it sucks.Doc wrote:.if Thunder has a bond, and no actual money is required up front, I'll withdraw that post....
If a company finds it's pilots are leaving, then either the drivers are going up the food chain(in which case, ya really cant blame them)that's one thing. But if the pilots are making lateral moves, then there's something lacking within the company. And It's ALWAYS either working conditions or money! And if all else is equal, a company will have as many pilots running towards them, as away?
A simpe fact remains....if we'd stop paying through the nose to these companies, they'd have to pay to train their own....yes?
A simpe fact remains....if we'd stop paying through the nose to these companies, they'd have to pay to train their own....yes?
I worked at Thunder 2 years. Loved it. I made a tonne of Cash and had a great time flying as a team with 2 medics and the FO. I had no bond and was direct hired as a Capt.
It has been a few years since, but Ken B and Bob M are still there so it can't be that different. If you work hard, they pay you well.
It has been a few years since, but Ken B and Bob M are still there so it can't be that different. If you work hard, they pay you well.
wish it where true Doc, but there is always someone willing to pay. Didn't you just have post about your company picking up someone who was willing to pay for there own PPC. I mean at least with a bond you get the moeny back. I not a fan of bonds either, but's its somewhat self induced. All it takes it one or two people to run with their PPC's for what ever reason until companies begin bonding people. There are very few companies up in North Western Ontario that don't bond people now. I mean your lucky you never had a bond, but how many people does your company pick up in year? Not everybodycan get lucky or have the financial means to wait it out. Some people do what they got to do just to have a job.
