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Re: Hot Air Explosion at Parliament Hill
Sure had to restrain yourself with the jokes available with this headline eh... lol
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Re: Hot Air Explosion at Parliament Hill
It would be funny if no one had been hurt. 
Drinking outside the box.
Re: Hot Air Explosion at Parliament Hill
Must restrain from making jokes.
I wonder if Ottawa has SMS procedures for boiler rooms.
When working around and in boiler rooms what is the "right" safety equipment?
I know personally what it's like to be burned. Its no picnic.
I don't believe the statement that "no one knows" what happened.
How old was the equipment? Did they get it "cheap"?
Not enough electronic, mechanical, or other safety precautions taken?
How much was the budget for "safe" boiler technology?
All the money they saved on safety isn't going to save anyone.
I'm just rambling now, but I'm sure the gov't will clean it up.
No one will be blamed, no safety systems will be upgraded in that boiler room or the other boiler rooms.
Maybe a placard or two will be posted.
A general meeting, blah blah blah.
Here is my ignorant, extremely ignorant opinion on how this could have been stopped.
1. Pressure sensor, temperature sensors. Multiple key locations, and constant computer monitoring.
2. Electronic/mechanical or other cut off valves to stop the flow of pressure or to minimize it.
3. Liquid nitrogen emergency cooling system for the boiler system. These do exist, and is very old technology.
4. Blast shields installed in the boiler room. I have no idea if this would actually work.
5. Make a damn robot to do internal corrosion inspections. Never send a human to do a machine's job.
My knowledge of boiler rooms is practically nil, nada, zilch.
If that man survives, he should sue.
I wonder if Ottawa has SMS procedures for boiler rooms.
When working around and in boiler rooms what is the "right" safety equipment?
I know personally what it's like to be burned. Its no picnic.
I don't believe the statement that "no one knows" what happened.
How old was the equipment? Did they get it "cheap"?
Not enough electronic, mechanical, or other safety precautions taken?
How much was the budget for "safe" boiler technology?
All the money they saved on safety isn't going to save anyone.
I'm just rambling now, but I'm sure the gov't will clean it up.
No one will be blamed, no safety systems will be upgraded in that boiler room or the other boiler rooms.
Maybe a placard or two will be posted.
A general meeting, blah blah blah.
Here is my ignorant, extremely ignorant opinion on how this could have been stopped.
1. Pressure sensor, temperature sensors. Multiple key locations, and constant computer monitoring.
2. Electronic/mechanical or other cut off valves to stop the flow of pressure or to minimize it.
3. Liquid nitrogen emergency cooling system for the boiler system. These do exist, and is very old technology.
4. Blast shields installed in the boiler room. I have no idea if this would actually work.
5. Make a damn robot to do internal corrosion inspections. Never send a human to do a machine's job.
My knowledge of boiler rooms is practically nil, nada, zilch.
If that man survives, he should sue.
Re: Hot Air Explosion at Parliament Hill
If only there had been a Federal Boiler Registry in place...
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Re: Hot Air Explosion at Parliament Hill
I saw this happened. I was right in front of the supreme court! By the way, I just heard one of the three guys died.
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Re: Hot Air Explosion at Parliament Hill
Yes, it was sad to hear the news this afternoon... When I was young(er), we lost a family friend in a similar accident when a pressure fitting failed in a steam plant. Terrible loss...
When I was young(er), we lost a family friend in a similar accident when a pressure fitting failed in a steam plant. Terrible loss...Man dies after Ottawa steam plant explosion
Last Updated: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 | 4:59 PM ET
CBC News
A 51-year-old man has died of injuries sustained in a boiler explosion at a plant that heats the Parliament Buildings.
A hazmat team from the Office of the Ontario Fire Marshal entered the heating plant to monitor its air quality a day after an explosion there. (Rebecca Zandbergen/CBC)
The man had suffered second-degree burns to 60 per cent of his body, paramedics said at the time of the explosion.
Police confirmed the death Tuesday, a day after the noon-hour explosion at the century-old heating plant behind the Supreme Court of Canada. The man's identity has not been released.
Another man received first-degree burns in the blast while a third had minor injuries. Most of the other 20 or so employees at the plant were not hurt.
The Cliff Street plant supplied heat via underground pipes to 52 buildings in Ottawa's core, along Wellington and Sparks streets and as far away as the Byward Market and the headquarters of the Department of National Defence on Colonel By Drive.
On Tuesday, a mask-wearing hazmat team from the Office of the Ontario Fire Marshal entered the building to monitor its air quality as grim-faced plant employees stood outside.
The building has been declared structurally sound. However, concerns remained about the effect of the explosion on asbestos wrapped around the pipes inside. Wayne Romaine, spokesman for the fire marshal's office, said crews will also be checking levels of carbon monoxide and hydrogen sulphide.
The Technical Standards and Safety Authority, the Ontario agency that licences boilers, was also on the scene investigating Tuesday.
Investigators said they hope the power to the plant will be turned back on at some point so they can download data from the plant's computers.
As of noon, Public Works and Government Services Canada had not yet commented on the incident.
On Tuesday, the plant was offline and heat was being supplied to the affected buildings from a plant at the Government Printing Bureau in Gatineau.
Full story here...
