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Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please!!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:59 am
by MickeyC
I read this twice and still understood it the same way. To me, it looks like the company is running a business and instead of paying pilots, you pay to fly for them. Hmmmm, I think I need to open a business like this!!!
I left the company name out, but if anyone wants to get it so they can go and pay to work, PM me.
I have heard about people working for free to get hours, but this is just crazy!!!!
***** *** ****** is currently accepting resumes from pilots.
*** ***** recruits pilots through its self-sponsor First Officer program on Beech 1900 aircraft.
For more information about these programs, please visit *** ***** website
Self-sponsor means that you, as the First Officer, have to pay to occupy the seat and log multi-engine hours. This is not an employment relationship, but a customer/client relationship where you are the customer.
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please!!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:59 am
by Bede
Is this Canada or the US?
I think a company in BC did something like this a few years ago and got shut down. Either you are an employee (and getting paid min wage) or a student (then you can't do revenue flights).
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please!!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:42 am
by Bushav8er
Quebec is my guess.
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please!!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:57 am
by Dust Devil
Bushav8er wrote:Quebec is my guess.
Nope Utah
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please!!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:33 am
by Hedley
Anyone want to pay me to mow my lawn?
I will accept bids starting at $10/hr. Applicants should feel free to log the John Deere PIC time. Needless to say, they will have to pay for their John Deere PPC.
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:59 pm
by PostmasterGeneral
I wonder if it's the same company, but wasn't Alpine Air trying to do something like this in the states? If it is them you're talking about, they want $27,000 to fly the 1900, and you only get 25-40 hours per month.
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:24 pm
by 200hr Wonder
Hint if you want to know who it is google "Self-sponsor means that you, as the First Officer, have to pay to occupy the seat and log multi-engine hours. This is not an employment relationship, but a customer/client relationship where you are the customer." and see what you find.
End Hint
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:43 pm
by Cougar
Hey, good hint.
Brand XXXX has had two crashes in Montana I can recall -- one on an IFR takeoff which killed their chief pilot, and then one on a mail flight, I believe he was in good weather on a VFR night, but had leveled off at either 8500 or 9500 MSL.
If you ever flew in Montana, you sure wouldn't level off that low at night....
Anyway -- sad events...
I wouldn't go anywhere near them, from the comments I've heard.... but, that was a few years ago..

Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:44 pm
by Dagwood
I can't believe this add is not a joke.
If it was a CRJ, I'd think it's where
Jet University grads go!

Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:22 pm
by gaamin
One company in Quebec does that : according to pilotcareercentre.com
"Pilots report that if hired, one has to pay for the initial PPC Training."
For that reason, it got bashed a lot on some French forums, and each time the thread would be deleted.
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:59 pm
by iflyforpie
To paraphrase George Carlin:
"I think we're already 'circling the drain' as professional pilots, but some would love to see the circles get a little faster and a little shorter."
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:54 am
by Hedley
I can't believe no one wants to pay me to drive my John Deere:

Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:48 am
by fingersmac
Check out Eagle Jet International in the US. You can pay them for first officer training on anything from a Be99 to A340. Check out their pricing list. Sad thing is, according to threads on PPRUNE, there are waiting lists for most of their programs!
http://www.eaglejet.net
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:51 pm
by Bushav8er
gaamin wrote:One company in Quebec does that : according to pilotcareercentre.com
"Pilots report that if hired, one has to pay for the initial PPC Training."
For that reason, it got bashed a lot on some French forums, and each time the thread would be deleted.
One I was thinking of does more - less? - than that. You fly right seat for nothing but multi experience, and its not even PIC - good deal huh.
Geez Hedley - I
won't pay you to ride that and cut your grass - I have a mortgage to pay for - I will however do a good job and treat your equipment with respect.

Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:03 pm
by 4blue
Until you said 1900 I thought you were talking about Skydive Toronto.
At least at ST you'll be flying "the big airplanes your next employer will want you to have flown." <-- Seriously, that was on their ad.
I guess the 185 _is_ technically bigger than a 150... And I suppose an employer would prefer 185 to 150 time... but I think they might be stretching it a touch.
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:30 pm
by dominusanopheles
wow. that's all i can say. wow.
Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:12 pm
by . ._
Hedley wrote:I can't believe no one wants to pay me to drive my John Deere:

Hmm...
That is a pretty sweet John Deere...
Check your PMs.
-istp

Re: Work for free????? No, I wil pay to work for you, please
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:44 pm
by IBPilot
Hedley wrote:Anyone want to pay me to mow my lawn?
I will accept bids starting at $10/hr. Applicants should feel free to log the John Deere PIC time. Needless to say, they will have to pay for their John Deere PPC.

Now this made my day and yes, what a joke of a company... Ive never seen anything like it.