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Sky Wings in Red Deer

#1 Post by penguin » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:09 pm

I recently went to Sky Wings here at the Red Deer, AB airport to apply for a job. I don't have my inst. rating but I was hoping for dispatch or ramp, but they told me I should get my inst with them, and then they can give me a job. I'm willing to do this if I can come up with the $$, but I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with S.W. See, I'm just a little worried I'll drop $7000 on a rating and have no job and even more debt to worry about. I'm well aware it's a gamble anyway but I was just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about S.W.'s level of bs.
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#2 Post by shitdisturber » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:15 pm

As far as I know they have the air cadet contract again this summer. That being the case they'll probably need instructors to do it. Food for thought.
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#3 Post by Tango01 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:15 pm

I don't know them, but how is that statement different from "Buy your own PPC" or "hand over 30k" it's the same idea. INVEST. Besides, I seriously doubt those cadets will learn IFR stuff.
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#4 Post by Pugster » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:42 pm

It depends.

If you mean instructor rating - then it's standard practice. If you mean instrument rating, I agree with the previous post.

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#5 Post by 5x5 » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:29 pm

Penguin - just make sure you get the job guarantee in writing. I don't know of any FTUs that will guarantee you a job before you take the training. And it sounds like you didn't do your PPL or CPL there so you have no history or connection with them.

I'm not suggesting there is anything shady going on as I don't have any firsthand knowledge about them at all, but I would strongly advise being cautious.
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#6 Post by shitdisturber » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:19 am

Tango I can pretty much guarantee you they were talking about an instructor rating, not an instrument rating. Their charter fleet is too small for them to hire someone on the basis of the latter.
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#7 Post by Flyin' Hi » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:21 am

AVOID SKYWINGS, STAY AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE. Talk to anyone who has trained there or worked there, good luck finding anyone with anything good to say. This is coming from someone who trained there and worked there. You do not want to have anything to do with them. If you do decide to go there, please put up a post in avcanada in a few months with your opinions of what you think of Skywings then.
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#11 Post by shitdisturber » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:56 am

Pyjamas?? Gee don't you think you're exaggerating just a wee bit there? If you've got an issue fine, but you destroy your own credibility making ridiculous claims like that. Not to mention the fact that your grand total of two posts both against Sky Wings and both how can I put it? Patently stupid, make me suspect you're just someone with an axe to grind and not one to be taken seriously.
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#12 Post by krispykreme » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:56 pm

Actually I am telling the truth, she was in pajamas!!

PM me if you want more details.

I am posting this under a "new" name to keep my other name untouched..
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#13 Post by shitdisturber » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:22 pm

What's the word I'm looking for? Oh yeah, umm bullshit. I know the girl in question and while I've seen her do some amazingly dumb things, going to work in pyjamas wasn't one of them. Of course I haven't seen her in months so it's possible she wears them at her new job; I have no idea about that. :roll:


Quote:"I am posting this under a "new" name to keep my other name untouched.."

In other words, you're deliberately trying to sewer someone and don't want to get banned under your regular name and/or found out. Gutsy move. :smt018
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#14 Post by swords1 » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:31 am

Yes, I agree, I have been to Okotoks in the past and really regret it.
The staff appear totally lazy and uninterested, the aircraft were rather tatty. Customer service is or at least was totally non existent. This was a few years ago, dont know if things have changed down there.
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#15 Post by shitdisturber » Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:36 pm

As I mentioned, the individual you're both talking about is long gone; give it a rest already. The airplanes are typical mid seventies 172's; probably no better or worse than any other training aircraft of that vintage. It's the usual problem with any school, people/students are just renting them so they don't give a damn what they do to the interiors; I've seen the same thing in aircraft in BC, aircraft in Ontario anywhere you go. They get used and abused; then some clown bitches they're too ratty. :roll: News flash, airplanes wouldn't get ratty if you idiots would stop abusing them!

Don't know why I'm wasting my breath; it's not like anybody's going to actually listen and look after somebody else's airplane after all. :wallbash:
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#16 Post by homerj » Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:11 pm

I know, people should look after planes!

This summer I saw some idiot land a 310 downwind at Rocky when we had the Aerobatic competion on,, one of the engines idled out, and he tried to start it over and over on the runway,, not only did he tie up the competition, but most likely he burnt out the starter!

I had to sit in the Extra for 14 mins for him to clear!!

He was the laughing stock of the day!
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#17 Post by Airtids » Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:32 pm

And renters still want to know why a 172 costs $110 an hour! :roll:
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#18 Post by meow » Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:52 am

[quote="shitdisturber"]Don't know why I'm wasting my breath;
WOW.. CHELAX.... Whenever you post something i get worried that you're gonna get heart attack.... Just learn to relax...
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#19 Post by penguin » Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:18 pm

Thanks for the input guys. I've got some more research to do before I make my decision and I'll definitely be paying a visit or two to the school to check things out. And for the record I was talking about the instructor rating. I'd still appreciate any more opinions from people who've been to Sky Wings. I'd really like to hear from someone who had a positive experience just for comparison. Thanks again.
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#20 Post by shitdisturber » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:41 am

Penguin, your best bet is to go there and have a look for yourself and make your decision based on that; for that matter, go more than once and see if your second impression matches your first. Good or bad.

Not that I'd want to imply that the negativity on this thread is from a pathetic loser with an axe to grind but there seems to be an awful lot of one post wonders on it.
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#21 Post by Shiny Side Up » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:43 pm

krispykreme wrote:Skywings > Stay away!

There are nothing but losers that work there, and will continue to be losers that work there period.
Hmmm good attitude! Here's someone who obviously doesn't want to work in aviation in Canada. Or didn't it occur to you that these might be the same people you might be asking for a job in the future?
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#22 Post by krispykreme » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:38 am

Acutally I work in the Oil and Gas industry,

And flying is what I do for Fun. ( I'm Looking at a 182 to purchase this Sat!)


Perhaps you may work for me one day,,

That is when our firm could possibly charter the aircraft that you are flying,

I come on this forum once and a while, and I must say, there are a few people here that have positive comments in general, but the majority of the members of this site are nothing more than "kids" that are hiding behind their IP adress.

My Advice to everyone on this site:

Work Hard, Keep your mouth shut, Work even harder, and I assure you that you will have a great career!

I dont want to put anyone down,, or make people feel bad. I just want the truth, as I see it, to be known.
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#23 Post by homerj » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:03 am

Whats a 150 renting for these days??
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#24 Post by Ground Loop » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:02 am

About $92 an hour. That's last time I checked anyways for a 152.
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#25 Post by Shiny Side Up » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:12 am

krispykreme wrote:
I come on this forum once and a while, and I must say, there are a few people here that have positive comments in general, but the majority of the members of this site are nothing more than "kids" that are hiding behind their IP adress.
Hmmm. Lets put that against...
krispykreme wrote: I am posting this under a "new" name to keep my other name untouched..
And...
Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers, Losers,

So I guess you'd fall into that majority then? Actually no, as of yet you're the only one I've seen here decide to openly bad mouth a specific group of pilots, no constructive critisism, just insults - and not very clever or humorous ones either to boot.
krispykreme wrote: My Advice to everyone on this site:

Work Hard, Keep your mouth shut, Work even harder, and I assure you that you will have a great career!

I dont want to put anyone down,, or make people feel bad. I just want the truth, as I see it, to be known.
So its "I want the truth to be known as I see it while I tell you from behind the cover of this alias".

That's class. Try not to cut yourself while you're grinding that axe.
krispykreme wrote: Perhaps you may work for me one day,,

That is when our firm could possibly charter the aircraft that you are flying,
Not likely - If your attitude given here is any mirror of your real personality, you'd be the type of customer I'd tell to get bent when he makes some outlandish request of my people and aircraft. Or another one of those asshat customers we have to fight tooth and nail to get paid for services rendered. So no thanks.
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