WWFC offering Navajo training???

Jiggly Bus · Post by **Jiggly Bus** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:52 pm

I see Waterloo Wellington Flight Centre is now offering navajo/crm/703 'ground school' and then an option to do some training on a PA31-350 for $800/hr, this seems to be a partnership with a local charter company (seems like a good way for them to keep their planes flying more). This seems like a way to charge commercial students even more without adding much, if any value. It seems like a very small step away from selling PPC's, but without a ppc or pcc at the end.
I'm sure I'll get some flak for this because it says it's my first post but when I saw this at my old school I wanted to hear other people's opinions.

Big Pistons Forever · Post by **Big Pistons Forever** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:04 pm

Anyone who spends any money for this "Training" is a fool.

iflyforpie · Post by **iflyforpie** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:26 pm

At least you get the plane though. Didn't Regency Express make you pay for the seat while the plane was working revenue flights?

airwalk00 · Post by **airwalk00** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:45 am

Another attempt by a scummy flight school to suck in students paying outrageous amounts of money for so called "operational" flying. What part of this is operational if you pay $800/hr to fly around circles in a Navajo? Are they going to fly their clients from point A to B with someone sitting in the right seat? That WOULD be operational except some sucker sitting right seat is paying for it.......Scum!

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:52 pm

Heck, $800/hr will almost put jet-a in the L39

indieadventurer · Post by **indieadventurer** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:15 pm

heck, for another $200/hr come to my school and fly a king air c90

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:37 pm

ya..... $800 seems pretty steep to me....

I won't even weigh in on the main topic...

aftstrake · Post by **aftstrake** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:24 am

CARO · Post by **CARO** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:44 am

It does seem like a cash grab. I don't know why anyone would pay for a PA31 PPC. On the other hand I suppose operators of Navajos that for whatever reason cannot do the training themselves for their pilots (ie time, availability, etc) may benefit from such a service (assuming the operator pays for the training). The question becomes is $800 an hour a reasonable rate for what you get. I think even if the quality of training is excellent $800 an hour is too steep. I don't think the level of service you would get from Flightpath would be worth $800. From what I've seen they can't even get organized enough to train their own pilots. Likely it is indeed a way for them to save money on FOs. I hope no one buys into this.

Big Pistons Forever · Post by **Big Pistons Forever** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:59 am

Do you even get a PPC ? It sounds like all they are selling is the Navajo "experience"

loopa · Post by **loopa** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:30 am

Big Pistons Forever wrote:Do you even get a PPC ? It sounds like all they are selling is the Navajo "experience"

I suppose it counts as time on type ...

iflyforpie · Post by **iflyforpie** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:13 pm

Big Pistons Forever wrote:Do you even get a PPC ? It sounds like all they are selling is the Navajo "experience"

Does that experience include throwing bags of cancelled cheques, or trying to load the 'self loading' cargo of inebriated hunter-gatherers?

BingBong · Post by **BingBong** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:06 pm

You can pay me $200 an hour and I'll let you watch mayday on my bigscreen....You can log the jet time if you wish

Big Pistons Forever · Post by **Big Pistons Forever** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:21 pm

BingBong wrote:You can pay me $200 an hour and I'll let you watch mayday on my bigscreen....You can log the jet time if you wish

You should be charging double .... after all it's "glass" time

BingBong · Post by **BingBong** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:27 pm

ok...lets make it $500 and I'll let you sit on my left side....

SamTHorn · Post by **SamTHorn** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:57 am

$800/hr....WTF... To rich for my blood.

What is the best rate for this type of offer..?

Thanks in advance...

iflyforpie · Post by **iflyforpie** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:24 am

SamTHorn wrote: What is the best rate for this type of offer..?

The best rate is getting the hours and training paid for--by the company you work for. They might even throw in a paycheque too!

industrypolice · Post by **industrypolice** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:33 pm

LOL WWFC shame on you...countdown to shutdown

BibleMonkey · Post by **BibleMonkey** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:50 pm

Warning: Unfinished Joke Ahead. Make up your own ending:

So after a bus accident , this Lawyer, a Hooker, and a Flight School owner were waiting to get into heaven, and they started to talk about what they'd charged per hour when they were alive.....

The Lawyer says

" Well, I charged $200. per hour, and I got half my clients off "

The Hooker says

"Well, I charged $300 per hour , and I got most of my clients off '

The Flight School owner says

Well, I charged $800 an hour and...

Writers Block!!

Well, I charged $800 an hour , ....none of my clients finished-but I only gave two of them a venereal disease .

flyinggreasemonkey · Post by **flyinggreasemonkey** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:18 pm

No one got off but the flight school owner, cause he was f***ing everyone!

BingBong · Post by **BingBong** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:30 am

Well, I charged $800 an hour, but no one could get the plane off....the ground....cause it was soo full of kids trying to buy jobs.....not that having flown a navajo for the afternoon is going to help you any. If you really want to spend money....and make it usefull for your career....do some valuable cross country time....hop in a sim and hone your IFR skills....get an aerobat rating and HAVE SOME FUN

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