Speeding Tickets

Nat Turner · Post by **Nat Turner** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:09 pm

I was wondering if Canadian companies are beginning to look at driving records like they do in the states?

I'm looking to get back into the scene after a few years out. Unfortunately, I've also got a big speeding violation that I'm probably going to get convicted on in court in a few months. I'm just wondering if I should bother spending money to get my IFR rating again.

I appreciate your feedback.

Nat

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:22 pm

You got charged with going over 250 knots below 10K. ?

$1.85 driver · Post by **$1.85 driver** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:23 pm

Oh hell.
I sure hope they don't. Probably a lot of us do.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:59 pm

No one has ever asked for my driver's abstract, but that is probably because of my lowly station. Last i heard the majors do look at driving records, though i seem to remember Westjet does not anymore.

Just badger the cop into emotional distress and don't lose in court.

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:48 pm

are you facing criminal charges or reckless driving? if it's going on your record as a criminal offense hire a lawyer and fight it tooth and nail. If it's just a fine with no record, pay up and slow down.

neverfail · Post by **neverfail** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:35 am

does reckless driving just happen automatically, or is it the discression of the cop???

I just got busted for 58 over last weekend. but they never said anything about reckless driving?

ZLIN 142C · Post by **ZLIN 142C** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:32 am

I hope for your sake it wasn't in a school zone.

mstram · Post by **mstram** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:55 am

neverfail wrote:does reckless driving just happen automatically, or is it the discression of the cop???

I just got busted for 58 over last weekend. but they never said anything about reckless driving?

r.d. is a specific charge. If it doesn't say it on your ticket, then you haven't been charged with it.

But even if you had been, the cop can still reduce the charge before you see the judge. I know that for a fact ... don't ask

flynbutcher · Post by **flynbutcher** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:53 am

Actually I hope for the kids sake it wasn't in a school zone. If it was you should go to jail! Anyway, back to aviation

Tango01 · Post by **Tango01** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:42 pm

If you've been clean for 3 years, it won't show on your abstract (at least here in Ontario). I'm sure big companies would look at your records.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:46 pm

What are you actually charged with? If it's a simple speeding ticket you won't be going to court unless you are choosing to fight it, and it won't be a big deal as your driving record won't indicate the speed you were going. If it's speeding that lead to a more serious MVA violation or CCC infraction it might have an impact.

Check Pilot · Post by **Check Pilot** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:00 pm

People that get speeding tickets and then have a problem with it are merely paying for the consequences of their own actions. If those consequences result in loss of liberty or potential loss of job opportunity that's just fine with me. Speeding' like violating any other traffic law shows contempt and disrespect for other citizens on the road or in the air, for that matter. Lawbreakers are getting what the law allows for, preferably at it's utmost limit.

Suffer away with the consequences if you choose to disregard the law. You will get absolutely no empathy or respect from me when you are convicted.

.80@410 · Post by **.80@410** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:12 pm

Check Pilot wrote:People that get speeding tickets and then have a problem with it are merely paying for the consequences of their own actions. If those consequences result in loss of liberty or potential loss of job opportunity that's just fine with me. Speeding' like violating any other traffic law shows contempt and disrespect for other citizens on the road or in the air, for that matter. Lawbreakers are getting what the law allows for, preferably at it's utmost limit.

Suffer away with the consequences if you choose to disregard the law. You will get absolutely no empathy or respect from me when you are convicted.

Get bent. Like you've never sped.

nite_owl · Post by **nite_owl** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:08 pm

Suggestion here.
I was picked off speeding on one of my motorcycles last year doing 41 over the limit. The ticket was worth $280 and 4 points on the license. Any more points and it's an increase in my insurance, so I paid a visit to the prosecutor at the court house when it came time to ante up. I asked if the fine could be INcreased in exchange for a decrease in the points. Depending on the speed involved (they have various ranges too) they are willing in some instances to change the violation to something else that won't show on your abstract and affect your insurance.
In my case I still ended up with 4 points, but they knocked $90 off the ticket. Now I just have to avoid getting another one for a few months.
Best of luck to ya!

bandaid · Post by **bandaid** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:12 pm

I was going to post something about job security and speeders, but that is in poor taste to those who have lost loved ones to these idiots.
Over the years I have had the opportunity to speak to many patients whom either directly or indirectly had thier lives changed by the results of this action. All that lived stated they would never be so stupid again. To some it is a similar promise they make when they are puking drunk. "I'll never drink again". To others it's a commitment I'm sure. To those who never made it, it is small concellation. Slow down and live, the alternative sucks.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:13 pm

I can't imagine anyone doing any signifigant amount of driving that does not ocassionally get nailed in a tax collecting speed trap.

And getting a speeding ticket has zero to do with your value as a pilot..

However speeding in a negligent and or reckless manner is a whole different issue.

Cat

Navajo-dude · Post by **Navajo-dude** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:22 pm

I laughed the other day in Vancouver - there were three cops set up for a speed trap in Stanley Park; meanwhile, addicts deal drugs right in front of these same cops at Hastings & Main.

The difference - a sppeder will pay their fine, generating revenue, but the addict laughs at the cops.

Whacky priorities.......

Cool Rythms! · Post by **Cool Rythms!** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:55 pm

In response to the original inquiry, no employer will request your driving record, unless something leaks out, in regards to any DWI offenses. If you were charged for DWI however, you can bet that any potential employer will find out eventually. Particularly when you apply for your RAP ( Restricted Area Pass).

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:33 pm

Cat Driver wrote:I can't imagine anyone doing any signifigant amount of driving that does not ocassionally get nailed in a tax collecting speed trap.

Cat

"Photo radar is not a cash grab" to quote YYC's and no doubt every other city's finest. Funny how they keep setting up on Deerfoot Trail where they're most likely to catch the big time speeders than in school zones where they can potentially save a kid's life.

neverfail · Post by **neverfail** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:24 pm

I was hardly disrespecting anybody, the nearest citizen was like an hour away. These things are a tax grab.

Check Pilot · Post by **Check Pilot** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:26 pm

Photo-Radar is one of the finest inventions to come along in a long time. I can't think of a better way to finally tax idiots and imbeciles, not that it's likely to reduce taxes. At least it might help property taxes from going up any further, but a superb method of taxation anyway for folks with a .60 or lower I.Q.

Further to your question .80@410, I DON"T speed. I am one of those annoying people you can't get around in traffic when I'm travelling at the speed limit. I see it as a limit and not a target to beat. Unlike you, I respect what our elected Members have put in place and therefore have respect for my fellow travellers on the road and society in general.

Yep, I'll do .92 @ FL 530 and it is quite legal from a lawmakers point of view and I love it. I just don't have to do it on the ground.

One of the other things to do is have a proper plan to arrive at a specified time, kind of like in aviation, where you can do a proper flight plan so you know how things will go before launching off - without enough fuel for example. Get off your stupid cell phone on the way to getting to where you are going to and take the time to drive like a professional pilot flies an aeroplane.

ZLIN 142C · Post by **ZLIN 142C** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:39 pm

I would question the value of photo radar because the consequences do not immediately follow the action. If the object of the practice is to increase traffic safety, the only way to do that is actually slow down or stop someone who is speeding. That means something highly visual - a marked police cruiser pulling over and ticketing those who are really pushing it, and at the same time causing others to reconsider just how much of a hurry they are really in. An unmarked van that you may or may not even notice accomplishes nothing in terms of safety, and just generates revenue after the fact. Police love photo radar, but if they claim it increases safety, I suspect they are either deluded or dishonest.

Where'd who go? · Post by **Where'd who go?** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:41 pm

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looproll · Post by **looproll** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:13 pm

Check Pilot:

Isn't it easy to just get-along and follow all of the millions of rules written for us by others? Yep! Take heart in the rules for they are your friend and guiding light for all your life. If you cannot think more than 1 or 2 seconds ahead of your vehicle, by all means, stay below the number on the sign you just passed, no matter what. True, exceeding the speed limit is what you'd call an unsafe act, but usually a routine violation. Are you saying you have NEVER exceeded the posted speed limit? If you think all those who occasionally exceed the posted limit are mentally defective perhaps you should adjust your rear-view mirror for a better look at the one behind the wheel.

Check Pilot · Post by **Check Pilot** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:34 pm

Zlin,

You just don't get the idea here. You get all twisted in circles about the issue of tax grabs and the inappropriate delayed consequences of photo-radar. Kinda like the justice system works anyway.

None of that matters in the long run if everyone understands that sooner or later there will be a price to pay. Those that just let things slide along get to pay BIG time later on. You seem to be one of those that just lets it slide right along and then get really angry when it comes time to have to account for it. But you did it. Folks charged with the responsibility get to go after you and take all your verbal or written crap for something YOU did wrong. I guess it's THEIR fault you broke the law - it could not be you on that pictue, could it?

I love it all though, because YOU got the ticket, not me.

Then it becomes the old, tired, "it's not my fault" idea. "It must be someone else's fault I was speeding" story. "Someone else stepped on my gas pedal", you say as you are alone in the car! I really hate that statement. It means you are unaccountable in YOUR mind that nobody but you matter in the whole world.

I'm so sick of hearing all that. If you argue about photo-radar, you fall into the category of one of those people that can NOT accept responsibility for their own actions and just join the Me, Me, Me only selfish idiots I've met in my life. If that's the case I have asolutely zero respect for you. - None- Don't come around my Check Pilot ground. I will smell you out in about two seconds.

Can you not understand that by simply obeying the rules (law) and simply respecting others, it won't matter a damn to you in the end, and the police/justice/politicians will you leave you alone.

Just obey the laws and you manage to not get attention you don't want.

Speeding Tickets

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