Audits after an accident

[AME 283]

An accident is investigated by the Transportation Safety Board, yet after an accident Transport Canada immediately does an audit ? So now the company is under stress due to an accident, they are also being investigated by the Safety board and then along comes Transport Canada. With all this stress added to trying to survive after an accident I am surprised that companies do not have more than one accident just due to stress. Has TC never heard of human factors ?

[Bulawrench]

Welcome to my past year. A PVI score of 4 from the maintenance is the only thanks i got.
Aviation has been rewarding for me but Accountable excecutives can go jump in the lake.
I don't think transport see past the tick in the box sometimes.

[iflyforpie]

I see the exact opposite where I am. We've never had an operational accident in the history of the company. I've been here four years without an audit, and the one inspection was a joke; basically TC just ticking boxes on what they think constitutes risk (financial health, employee turnover, etc) and then deciding that we didn't need any more attention.


Bottom line is, they don't have enough inspectors so they only bother what they think of as 'high risk' operations.

Not agreeing with it though...

[Heliian]

It can be added stress, but if you've been following your procedures and all the records are up to date as they should be then there shouldn't be too much added stress. They are doing their job to ensure safety even thought it's reactionary in nature. Let them get all the information they want, assign a tech records clerk or someone else who know's where everything is and carry on your operation. When they find something, they'll talk to you.

If you're freaking out and are worried that they'll crucify you for something, then maybe you need to change the way you operate.

[Bulawrench]

I agree, if you have been doing the best job you can and your internal audits have been acurate the added strss is no more than the Accountable excecutive yelling at you for some stupid reason that has nothing to do with airplanes.

[Heliian]

Accountable Executive? Stop using oxymorons.

[Bulawrench]

I am trying to be polite. I know they don't take accountability the way maintenance personnel do.

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[bmc]

If a company had an accident and people were injured or there was loss of life, I would hope that some jurisdiction would be scrutinizing a company as soon and as thoroughly as possible to make certain that the causes are not repeatable.

I've been there, though not directly involved, when we had a an accident that took 143 lives. The stress flows through a company in waves. Very difficult time for everyone.

Nonetheless, there were glaring obvious problems that would not have beend rectified unless an incident made people wake up.

[Big Pistons Forever]

There have been many times over the years when after hearing of an accident, my first thought was "well I not surprised, the way they operated, sooner or later somebody at XYZ air service was going to wreck an airplane". Safety starts at the top and if management are not serious about safe operations than all the audits in the world won't change that. Especially at the lower end of the industry (406,702/703), the person who will ultimately determine the safety of the operation is the guy/gal sitting in the right seat. IMO the single most important thing that will increase an operation safety is when the PIC has teh stones to say NO when asked to do something unsafe. Easy to say but hard to do in real life, and it is not fair that the most vulnerable part of the operation is the one who has to be the bad guy but at the end of the day you let management or customers bully you into doing something unsafe than you have let yourself become part of the accident chain.