Part Time Contract Piper Navajo Captians Needed.

Post subject: Part Time Contract Piper Navajo Captians Needed.Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:50 am

Looking for part time contract pilots with current Navajo PPC.
reply with resume to: resumes@presidentialair.ca


Please do not reply if you:
do not have 1000 hours TT, 500 hours multi and 100 hours on the PA31
do not have a current PA 31 PPC

Because most pilots are whores and would hump HRs leg for that job.

No it really was a serious question. If you have a 500 hrs Multi, 100 hrs on the Ho and a current PPC you probably allready have a full time job. Do they really expect somebody to quit their job and move so they can be employed part time ?

I believe it was a serious question, I gave you a serious answer.

Current PPC ?? My A$$ thought..
A PPC for one CIE worth nothin in another...SMS rules by now.
Who doesn't know that !!

I think some of you people make the assumption that everyone else is like you - trying to get ahead to the big iron in the industry, and there is some certain amount of hours where you should not be flying some type of airplane anymore. Have you considered that there are other motivations for getting job than simply moving ahead or simply finding any employment possible?

Now maybe I'm missing something because I don't know anything about this company, and if there is something fishy about the company then I stand corrected.

But some people don't want to work full time for a variety of reasons: they don't need full time work; they are just looking for something to fill their time (maybe semi-retired?); there are many reasons.

Maybe this job is in a better location for someone and brings them closer to their family?

The reasons go on.

I once heard a couple of pilots talking about a mutual friend of theirs. Their friend had been flying a B1900 out of Toronto, was a Captain with several years experience flying the 1900 from the left seat. They remarked that they couldn't believe that this guy had quit his job, and moved up to N. Ontario to take a job flying a navajo around. They were saying things like "he's giving up on the dream"; "he's throwing his career away" and so on. This just makes me sick.

I had a friend in a similar situation who gave up flying some turbine in a small airline in Toronto to "give it up and throw it all away" to head up north, and live where all his family is, his wife had a good paying job, and where he felt much more comfortable than in Toronto's hustle and bustle. He would tell me how he missed the simple flying up there where he didn't have to think about politics and unions and the faceless corporation he was leaving behind. He had his reasons and they were good for him. Who was anyone else to judge his personal reasons and his personal desires for his career?

Now since this question is coming from BPF, I suspect there has to be some other reason for asking this question?

I'm sorry, in hindsight my last post seems rather harsh. I should really check with you guys first about why this is such a big deal before I spouted off.

So let me start again...

So what is the big deal?

KK7 wrote:

I once heard a couple of pilots talking about a mutual friend of theirs. Their friend had been flying a B1900 out of Toronto, was a Captain with several years experience flying the 1900 from the left seat. They remarked that they couldn't believe that this guy had quit his job, and moved up to N. Ontario to take a job flying a navajo around. They were saying things like "he's giving up on the dream"; "he's throwing his career away" and so on. This just makes me sick.

Well your B1900 Captain friend wouldn't have to "throw away his career" on this job, his application would be excluded from consideration on the basis that he did not have a "current Pa31 PPC"

They say they are looking for part time captains (plural).....I guess what I don't get is the fact that the company seems to think that there are multiple numbers of guys/gals with time on type and current PPC's that are going to interested. In fact they don't want pilots without a PPC to even apply. Is there really such a pool of available candidates out there, especially as we are entering the spring hiring season ?

Ahhh, the transferable PPC.

Another one of TCCA'a finest rules.

IMHO.

Someone that has a valid PPC on the Ho, who has moved on to fly something a bit bigger, say a King Air or B-1900, who knows that they get 6-12 guaranteed days off a month, can also do a bit of 702 or 703 on the side to make a little extra cash. All that pilot has to do with his valid PPC is get a "Competency Check" from the company he will work for, in order to satisfy the company requirements (COM) and also not to raise any alarm by TC.

I-F

^ That's kinda along the lines I was thinking.

Obviously this company thinks they can find someone who meets their qualifications if they expect to hear from nobody else who does have a navajo PPC. And then if and when they don't get any resumes, they'll just have to change their ad.

Yet another constructive thread illustrating the need for a separate "Bitchfest" forum for those who have the time to whine about what does not affect them.

If I had a Navajo PPC, I'd take it if the contract rate was good....


...but I kind of doubt that it is....

I suppose from an operators view point this deal is economic nirvana. No training costs and you only pay for the pilot when you need him/her. Personally my "sleezy operator" warning light goes on when I see this. Anyway time will tell, but I hope no one applies forcing this guy to hire and train a full time pilot, thus giving a newbe their first break....

Does anybody know anything about this operator?

And Slat's.....sorry to offend your tender sensibilities

Big Pistons Forever wrote:Does anybody know anything about this operator?

Never heard of them, but here is their website: http://presidentialair.ca/
Based at Lake Simcoe Regional. Not much info online which potential employees would be looking for: minimum qualifications, aircraft types and number ect.

All the photos on their website are of business jets.
TC only has a Navajo registered to Presidential Air.

Do they have access to a jet as well, or are they intentionally misleading their customers?

Company out of lake simco as mentioned in previous post.

1 Chieftain that apparently a lot of money was spent on making it look very nice and appealing.
Aircraft was purchased from south of the border about a year ago. and the import was done on it along with a total overhaul of the interior and a paint job, entertainment system and whole bunch of bells and whistles.



Last I knew the reason why they needed someone part time to train the chief pilot and ride along his side for his PPC to have his full sign off by TC as chief pilot. They required the time and a valid PPC on the A/C. This was few months ago. They have been trying to get their AOC in order and its been an on going process for quite a while with this company that never seem to move ahead .

The chief Pilot from what I understand is also the ops manager.
They had gone through few CPs in the last few months but not really sure the reasoning behind the turn over rate.
The owner of the company is a younger mid to late 20’s somewhere from overseas who is financially stable from what I hear.

Now, this info is few months old, so the CP might be all signed off and maybe they are getting busier and feel the need to fill a gap crewing the A/C for possible upcoming increase in demands for chartering the machine. I am not really sure.
or he could have gone through another chief pilot and needs to re-train the new one.
Its speculation at this point from my end.

No jets either,