Slow news day in St John's?

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Slow news day in St John's?

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The CBC picks up 'breaking news'
Close call for Labrador-bound flight
"Separation between the two aircraft was 2.5 nautical miles horizontally and 500 ft vertically."
CADORS

Well done, nice work Conrad.
Be nice to see more of these reports - what happens when pilot training, regulations, and SOP's DO work. :D
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Re: Slow news day in St John's?

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WOW, it is a good thing they didn't encountered one of those deadly "AIR POCKETS". How many airplanes have come to grief when they hit an AIR POCKET and simply ran out of AIR.??? I wish someone would invent something that would turn on a light in the cockpit to alert the pilots they are about to encounter a deadly AIR POCKET.
Where did that expression come from? Anybody know?. LOL.
Chock one up for TCAS and for a crew that responded to a TCAS alert in a decisive fashion.
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Re: Slow news day in St John's?

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A report filed to the Transport Canada database shows that an Air Canada Jazz flight had been en route from Halifax to Gander, and was fcleared to descend to 17,000 feet. However, it could not level off and had to drop further, and came close to the Provincial Airlines flight
Wtf does that mean? Sounds like a Jazz crew busted their altitude.

For what it's worth, bad thread title, you guys might not realize but 2.5NM and 500' at cruising altitude is exactly half the required vertical and horizontal sep required, therefore still a close event.

Let's say Saab340 cruising at 340knots groundspeed and a Jazz RJ cruising around 380 knots groundspeed, equals a closure rate of 720 knots (trying not to sound too Topgunny, and assuming head to head)... suddenly that 2.5NM is an incredibly small distance.
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"JZA862, a CRJ 600 enroute from Halifax (CYHZ) to Gander (CYQX) was given a descent clearance from 31,000 ft to 17,000 ft. SPR1924, a Dash 8 enroute from St. John’s (CYYT) to Deer Lake (CYDF) was level at 16,000ft. Both aircraft were issued the Gander altimeter setting of 29.06. As JZA862 passed through 18,000 ft, the flight crew switched the altimeter setting, placing the aircraft at approximately 17,150 ft. At this altitude the autopilot was not able to level the aircraft at 17,000 ft as cleared. JZA862 descended below the clearance altitude. The SPR1924 flight crew received and carried out Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) descent to 15,000 ft. Separation between the two aircraft was 2.5 nautical miles horizontally and 500 ft vertically."
(Sorry for the title, just the CBC doesn't usually report on the misses)
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Re: Slow news day in St John's?

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Hold on a sec...are we talking about the Conrad?
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Kurwa wrote:Hold on a sec...are we talking about the Conrad?
I don't know... I know two, but only one flying outta YYT - then again it's been a while, and the reporter couldn't even get the flight number right so - could have messed up that as well
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