with 921 hrs, what are my chances of getting a turboprop job

[takamasa]

as the title stated.

i was a flight instructor with 921 hrs, 800 pics, 30 pics multi engine.

Mind asking what are my chances of getting a turboprop job ? location is not a concern, i am flexible with locations.

Also when i did some research, they usually listed the mini. requirement regarding to flight experience, is it the must that i have to meet or depending on cases?

once again,thanks every one, any words/suggestions are essential. thank you. happy landings, cheers.

[SII]

hours don't really mean anything what kind of a guy are you to sit in the cock-pit with?

[culver10]

You should have absolutely no problem at all getting a great, high paying turboprop job with exactly 921 hours!! Just read the hundreds of threads on this site about all of the other inspiring success stories.

[KK7]

It's been done with less hours, because for a simple turbine job hours don't mean anything.

We can better judge your chances if you list the people you know. Seriously, networking is the key. Get out and shake some hands, and ask them in person what your chances are, then the likelihood of getting that turbine job will go up.

Keep in mind that with low experience, attitude is everything.

[Joe Blow Schmo]

No chance with 921 hours. If only you had 933.5! That's the magic number for turbine jobs.

[Slappy the Squirrel]

You've got a good shot at a PC-12, for example. It may take a bit of time looking but there are plenty of operators would who take you.

[takamasa]

hours don't really mean anything what kind of a guy are you to sit in the cock-pit with?

thanks for your reply.

the reason i am asking because i applied for quite a lot of jobs in Canada without no replies and i recently become a permanent resident of canada. I dont know if that might help to get a job in Canada.

I previously worked for a flight school under a working visa.

[takamasa]

You should have absolutely no problem at all getting a great, high paying turboprop job with exactly 921 hours!! Just read the hundreds of threads on this site about all of the other inspiring success stories.

thanks for your reply.
the reason why i am asking coz i submitted a lot of applications,some of the jobs were even asking for 250 +multi IFR but nothing back yet. but at that point, i didn't have a legal status but now i just become a permanent resident of Canada.

don't know if this status is key factor that contribute to a success of an application.

[takamasa]

It's been done with less hours, because for a simple turbine job hours don't mean anything.

We can better judge your chances if you list the people you know. Seriously, networking is the key. Get out and shake some hands, and ask them in person what your chances are, then the likelihood of getting that turbine job will go up.

Keep in mind that with low experience, attitude is everything.

i believe the connection is important too but i dont know anyone like a chief pilot, flight ops manager etc. my co-workers are working but they are FOs only, i dont know if they r able to hook me up with jobs.

one more thing is that my frds got a decent job with 1000 hrs+ flying PC-12, Mu-2 etc. i dont know if they rise the requirements simply coz there are a lot of qualified pilots in the country.

[takamasa]

You've got a good shot at a PC-12, for example. It may take a bit of time looking but there are plenty of operators would who take you.

i hope it will happen one day in the future. i am worried coz i do think there are excessive supply of pilots in Canada. People are more affordable to learn flying. i am kind of concerned.

[whiteguy]

as the title stated.

i was a flight instructor with 921 hrs, 800 pics, 30 pics multi engine.

Mind asking what are my chances of getting a turboprop job ? location is not a concern, i am flexible with locations.

Also when i did some research, they usually listed the mini. requirement regarding to flight experience, is it the must that i have to meet or depending on cases?

once again,thanks every one, any words/suggestions are essential. thank you. happy landings, cheers.

Chances are good, be in the right time right place. I started on a King Air at 240 hrs.

[Dagwood]

Chances are good, be in the right time right place.

+1
I got on a multi-turbine with less than 700. Send out resumes (even if they are not advertising), and go meet some faces and shake some hands.

Best of luck

[KK7]

It's been done with less hours, because for a simple turbine job hours don't mean anything.

We can better judge your chances if you list the people you know. Seriously, networking is the key. Get out and shake some hands, and ask them in person what your chances are, then the likelihood of getting that turbine job will go up.

Keep in mind that with low experience, attitude is everything.

i believe the connection is important too but i dont know anyone like a chief pilot, flight ops manager etc. my co-workers are working but they are FOs only, i dont know if they r able to hook me up with jobs.

one more thing is that my frds got a decent job with 1000 hrs+ flying PC-12, Mu-2 etc. i dont know if they rise the requirements simply coz there are a lot of qualified pilots in the country.

This is what I am trying to tell you. Sending out resumes with your experience simply won't cut it unless your resume is received exactly at the right place and at the right time. You have to get out and visit people and meet people. You can ask your current connections if they can help, rather than wonder if they can. Ask them if they know anyone hiring right now. Look beyond the people you are working with, approach people on the flight line, hang out where pilots hang out. Go out for a drink or two with a crowd and get your name out there. Even if this doesn't end up helping you now, it could very well help you down the road.

[trey kule]

We can better judge your chances if you list the people you know. Seriously, networking is the key. Get out and shake some hands, and ask them in person what your chances are, then the likelihood of getting that turbine job will go up

First, that is not networking as many of old guys (who tend to be the cps) understand it.
That is self-promotion. Nothing wrong with it, but dont call it networking. When I shake your hand it does not mean you are suddenly my best buddy. Understand that, and you will understand our relationship

Secondly, dont ask for an honest answer unless you really want one.

Now , to the original poster. This whole turbo prop thing is overrated . The worry operators generally have is a. in the start procedure..flying hands and cowboy attitudes mean overtemp starts., and b. limitations. All these are really easily taught and practiced in training, and if you have the proper attitude towards flying it is a non-issue. Where things get a bit more complicated is many turborprops (yah yah,I know about Caravans and t-otters and beavers)
also have other systems like pressurization, anti and deice, radar..and have different operational parameters, so it is more than the turbine engine.
I mention this because for some reason there is a widespread belief among new CPL's that a PC 12 is really not much different than a 172 except for the engine. In fact, it is closer to the bigger king airs.

As to your question, most operators want to satisfy themselves that you can be trusted with their equipment. Saying oops, sorry, I was in a hurry,does not really make a company that has suffered 100k damage to an engine feel better. Your hours are not nearly as important as your maturity level...which brings me back to those that think if they shake someones hand they suddenly have a lifelong bosom buddy.

[KK7]

Trey, I completely agree. Rereading my post I don't think I made myself very clear.

Networking is by definition making connections with people, whether professional, acquaintance or friend. Regardless of what type of relationship it is, having those connections gets you information, even if it isn't much like "sorry, we aren't hiring at all for the next year", and information is key to knowing where to find a job and how to get it, and where to not waste your time. But it is very hard to do any useful networking on AvCanada, for the purpose of finding a job in the early stages of a career. This is a good place to start, but in the end face to face or failing that over the phone is better.

Of course, networking is pointless if you have a poor attitude or lack maturity. The idea of meeting people face to face and making connections is showing people you're more than just a piece of paper with a few hours on it. You need to come across as professional, respectful, mature, and someone who cares about the work they do. If you can't show that then you're up the creek.

[Krashman]

You guys all have interesting and valid points.

One thing that no one has mentioned is the possibility of WORKING into a turbine job. I have recently seen a few job posts for 206/182/207 pilots. PIC time is still very important. Believe me most of these companies HAVE multi turbine aircraft. A lot of great opperators hire from their pool of single pistion pilots for vacant Mturbine jobs. Just an Idea... I left instructing with a bunch of time to go fly a 206 and I didn't take long for the power that be to see I could be trusted with their aircraft and got the call to fly a king air. Plus it way more fun in the bush than flying in a white shirt and tie pavement to pavement.

[trey kule]

I understand what you are getting at. You have to cut us oldsters a bit of slack at times, as we sometimes see relationships a bit differently. Networking has to be potentially a two way street for us, and based on actually knowing someone for awhile. What you are suggesting is someone you dont know should help you becasue...well because they are just good people as there is no other reason at that point. Personally, I would rather hire a competent, quiet, introverted pilot then one who shamelessly promotes themselves..I have found that those who are super good at promotion are seldom much good at anything else..They make great executives..(just my opinion). Same reason, I guess that I dont like resumes with pitures, 0n pretty colored paper, or with every acheievement since cub scout first aid on it.

I suppose you are right about information. I am not sure that information is not screened slightly with strangers to be pleasant and positive though. In Canada, for example , you cannot say you will not hire anyone under 25 , or who does not have two years work experience OUTSIDE of aviation, even though you may have found those two particular things to be part of a success formula for hiring. You cannot tell a nice young lad that you do have two vacancies but HR has decided we are looking like (I think it is called optics now) we are not gender freindly so they will be filled only by one or another particular gender regardless if you are the most qualified pilot around... It kind of sucks, but that is the world, and I would not expect too many people are really going to share that info standing on the ramp,,,or worse, when you reach for a fuel ticket and get handed a resume.. and that happens.


Personally, I think it is a more perceived idea that it works, than that it really does work, and for every success story, there are more than a few that never get any help because of the perceived.." Hi..Im looking for a job...what can you do for me..attitude".Playing the odds, but I personally think there is better ways...and no..I dont share them on a public forum...you see that is what real networking is all about.


Krahman you are absolutely right, if you work for a company that gives you that opportunity.
But I am willing to bet you didnt take the job by saying I will fly the 206 if you promise to give me the king air...did you? feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I would think you just did a good job and happened to work for a company that actually looks at the job your doing and not how far up someones butt you have your nose. good for you.
Nice to hear someone rewarded for doing a good job.

[takamasa]

thanks everyone for answering my questions ,states all those areas i should consider.

i have gone through pilotcareercentre. i just realised that most companies expect to apply in person rather than through internet. my first target province is Alberta.

hopefully i will give u guys some gd news soon.

thanks a lot every one.

[Krashman]

Your absolutely correct I didnt over look the position I was hired for. Just put my head down and got the job done.

Networking will get you to some place you want to be. I agree it's that one thing that sets you above the rest. To the original poster, keep flying where your at and keep at it.

[ditar]

No chance with 921 hours. If only you had 933.5! That's the magic number for turbine jobs.

Wow, then I was lucky. I got my first turboprop job with 929.7 hours!

[trey kule]

Gud for you!

But we are actually talking about a job flying one, not washing it.

[ditar]

Gud for you!

But we are actually talking about a job flying one, not washing it.

[Rowdy]

Is that you Prana?!?!?

[Doc]

The last guy we hired had just about exactly the time you have. He's been here for three years, so our turn over ain't all that high. Again, right place, right time.
There are pit falls. Companies to avoid. You're better off at McDonalds than a couple of notables.
You state..."I was an instructor......"
Did you quit? If you're still working, stay and send out feelers. Never quit. You'd be gobsmacked by how much easier it is to find a job if you already have one....and how rare they are if you don't.

[takamasa]

The last guy we hired had just about exactly the time you have. He's been here for three years, so our turn over ain't all that high. Again, right place, right time.
There are pit falls. Companies to avoid. You're better off at McDonalds than a couple of notables.
You state..."I was an instructor......"
Did you quit? If you're still working, stay and send out feelers. Never quit. You'd be gobsmacked by how much easier it is to find a job if you already have one....and how rare they are if you don't.

it's not like i quit but coz my working visa expired, i had to leave the country and they just issued me an immigration visa which lead me to become a permanent resident of the country in the next few weeks.

however it's hard for me to go back to my flight school as the operation is still very quiet at this moment.

mind asking what company u r working at? any hiring now?thanks a lot.