think before you transmit

[BEFAN5]

Minor little rant thread. Think about what you are going to say before you press the pretty little black/red/whatever button. 5 minute radio calls with all those "ahhhhhhhs" and "ummmmmmmmmmmms" are just wasting air time!

[200hr Wonder]

I dunno often times the little button is "brain dump" as in I push it and I forget what the heck I am going to say. I think people just need to relax a little 90% of the time. Any conflicting please advise.

[BEFAN5]

haha. Yes. Very true. I just heard a transmission last night that lasted at least 90 seconds (just a basic position report). I wish I could post the transcript but I want to protect the identity of said person.

I remember my first time talking to ATC. Sitting on the ramp, with the instructor going over my radio call word for word. I repeated it to him, and then as soon as I pressed that little button, shit hit the fan. "Holly shit, I am transmitting now to the high power".

[Go Juice]

Guys gotta relax, have a sandwish and not take everything TOO seriously, life's good and everybody screws up a comm once in a while.

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

Not everyone can be as perfect or amazing as all you"professional" pilots....

[ahramin]

If speaking on the radio in a concise manner is too much for someone to handle, I would suggest that aviation is neither a good profession, nor a good hobby for that person. Try something easier.

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

You talk as if the industry will be perfect once this SEVERE problem becomes rectified...... unlikely. If small things like that bother you then perhaps you are in the wrong industry.

[iflyforpie]

I use "AAAAAAAAnnnnnnnnnnnnddd...." at the start of every TX because it makes me sound like a professional pilot. I just need to find something to generate a 400Hz tone over the comm and I will sound even more professional....

[CL-Skadoo!]

I flew with a french fellow who would always do the "annnnnnnnd" but his was an "eeeeeeeet". He sounded like Tony Soprano on initial contact "Aaaaaaaaay New York, OWWWWW, how'ya doin'?" Ok, the "owww" was for effect.

[TopperHarley]

I love it when people pluralize their call sign or read backs.

[Nark]

I hate people who say "roger" after the controller say stand-by.

[TopperHarley]

I hate people who say "roger" after the controller say stand-by.

Yeah I know. You're supposed to say "check"

[Beefitarian]

Guys gotta relax, have a sandwish and not take everything TOO seriously, life's good and everybody screws up a comm once in a while.

I was thinking of omitting "a comm" and writing this on a post it note today.

[Liquid Charlie]

Not many still around but clearing your throat before you spoke came from the old timers/military guys who once used throat mikes that were vox activated -- but no reason to do it on a PTT mike

one of my pet peeves - guys who get a channel change and xmit immediately without listening or continues to call over and over again if ATC does not answer -- order a coffee --relax -- if it's important they will chase you down - chances are the controller heard you and was on another freq and all you are doing is pissing people off --

[niss]

I hate people who say "roger" after the controller say stand-by.

Yeah I know. You're supposed to say "check"

I say wilco

[Chaxterium]

one of my pet peeves - guys who get a channel change and xmit immediately without listening or continues to call over and over again if ATC does not answer -- order a coffee --relax -- if it's important they will chase you down - chances are the controller heard you and was on another freq and all you are doing is pissing people off --

I absolutely agree with the first point about not listening before transmitting - that really chaps my ass - but the second point I only partially agree with. If ATC doesn't respond to me right away I'll usually give it another 20-30 seconds and then try again. I understand they may be busy but I'd like to at least hear some form of acknowledgment. Especially if it's my first call of the day. It basically serves as a radio check so I'd like something. Even just a quick "Standby" works. If they're transmitting on another frequency I have no way of knowing that so I basically have no choice but to call again after a short period of time. Just a quick "standy" takes care of it.

Anyway,

Cheers,
Chax

[Nordo]

I hate people who say "roger" after the controller say stand-by.

Yeah I know. You're supposed to say "check"

I say wilco

Why not do what the controller just told you to do and STANDBY.

[niss]

Why not do what the controller just told you to do and STANDBY.

How's he supposed to know I'm doing that with out answering? Huh smart guy?

[Nark]

It really ticks me off when I'm over flying S Ontario and I'm trying to get ahold of Topper or niss on 21.5 or center.

Toronto center has other freqs. Use those if you want to call "level 3-5-0"

[BEFAN5]

Lets continue adding to the list... People who carry on personal conversations on 126.7 when it is already congested. Go up a nickel, PLEASE!

[TG]

Lets continue adding to the list... People who carry on personal conversations on 126.7 when it is already congested. Go up a nickel, PLEASE!

To be correct since that's what this topic seems to be all about, it's actually go down 3.95$ or 3.25$.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/p ... htm#5-13-3

5.13.3 Air-to-Air

For air-to-air communications between pilots within the Canadian Southern Domestic Airspace, the correct frequency to use is 122.75 MHz; in the Northern Domestic Airspace and the North Atlantic, the frequency allocated by ICAO is 123.45 MHz.

Always cheaper in the South

[1000 HP]

I dunno often times the little button is "brain dump" as in I push it and I forget what the heck I am going to say. I think people just need to relax a little 90% of the time. Any conflicting please advise.

Yep fur shure. CHILL WINSTON. Give up the Java!

[1000 HP]

Lets continue adding to the list... People who carry on personal conversations on 126.7 when it is already congested. Go up a nickel, PLEASE!

To be correct since that's what this topic seems to be all about, it's actually go down 3.95$ or 3.25$.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/p ... htm#5-13-3

5.13.3 Air-to-Air

For air-to-air communications between pilots within the Canadian Southern Domestic Airspace, the correct frequency to use is 122.75 MHz; in the Northern Domestic Airspace and the North Atlantic, the frequency allocated by ICAO is 123.45 MHz.

Always cheaper in the South

But despite that everybody always monitors 126.7

[Flying Nutcracker]

Everyone should go on to LIVE-ATC.net, find a recording of themselves and, listen to themselves. Pilots AND controllers! Certain controllers at different centres and airports have a unique ability to breathe in to the microphone to the point that it's anyones guessing game as to what is being said. Some pilots just have to lay off the Scotch-voice a little bit... I don't have sub-woofers big enough to reproduce the sonic spectrum of some of the voices in the air! Some are gifted... I know!

Be normal. Talk like you normally would. It's a conversation with a set of preferred words for ease of understanding and clarity. Don't overcomplicate what you are trying to say. Say it like it is.

My first time to Vegas... oh boy! Proud Canadian Aviator humble pie eating contest!!! Couldn't get anything right. Especially taxi-clearences... Didn't have a clue what they were telling me! And it sounded just like that!

To close... Sarcasm is a wonderful thing if you get it!

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"Uhhh, tower, good morning, uhhh this is Charlie Foxtrot Alpha Bravo Charlie, uhhhh, roger, uhhh, g'day roger."

That's how I roll.