Advice on ZED fares

[Cobra64]

Hi guys. I am looking for some advice on using zed fares to go on vacation. I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays. We are planning on going to Malaysia, via Narita or Sydney. The problem is we don't know which flight across the ocean we will get on, therefore don't want to buy the zeds to Kuala Lumpur yet. Am I correct in assuming that i can use aeronet to book and then pick up tickets in say Sydney just like I would at yyc? we would be spending a day or two in either city before moving on so trying to rush to catch a connection wouldn't be a problem. Thanks.

[TKTguy]

Cobra,
According to ACpedia NRT cannot issue employee tickets. We are handled by NH and
they do not have RESIII. In SYD you can have ZED tickets issued but the ticket office
is not at the airport. Its located at 264 George St. Sydney.

[whiteguy]

Hi guys. I am looking for some advice on using zed fares to go on vacation. I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays. We are planning on going to Malaysia, via Narita or Sydney. The problem is we don't know which flight across the ocean we will get on, therefore don't want to buy the zeds to Kuala Lumpur yet. Am I correct in assuming that i can use aeronet to book and then pick up tickets in say Sydney just like I would at yyc? we would be spending a day or two in either city before moving on so trying to rush to catch a connection wouldn't be a problem. Thanks.

No. You must buy your Zed fares before you depart. Zed fares are fully refundable if you do not use them. Book all your zed fares for the flights/airlines you are considering travel on. You should have zeds with you as a backup anyway. If you want advice on employee travel there are plenty of guys that work the ramp in YYC that can help you.

[TopperHarley]

When I flew to Asia last year I bought a whole bunch of Zed fares, about $700 worth. Ended up getting on the AC flight back, so I just walked up to the ticket counter and got refunds on all my zeds. You have to apply for the refund within a certain time frame (90 days, or something like that).

They're totally refundable and must be purchased before you leave. You basically get a paper-copy of a ticket, you then have to list yourself on the flight either by going up to the counter or calling a number. They're handy to have as insurance, but it was kind of annoying having to keep all those paper tickets with me whilst in Asia.

[MacDoo]

I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays.

Boy doesn't this say it all - a rampie with 7 months of seniority getting summer vacation. You guys all want to be treated equal during contract time, but clearly we are not all equal at this company.

[yyz monkey]

I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays.

Boy doesn't this say it all - a rampie with 7 months of seniority getting summer vacation. You guys all want to be treated equal during contract time, but clearly we are not all equal at this company.

Never said he wasn't getting it doing a cycles worth of shift trades now, did he? Nevermind the fact that he was hired as a Christmas temp in December (I'm assuming, given the facts) and completely missed the vacation bid. The company would've allotted him a slot if that's the case.

Instead of poo-poohing the fact that he's getting vacation during the summer, how about you wish him and his wife a pleasant trip instead?

Or, if you can't do, try tracking down the bastard who obviously pissed in your Corn Flakes this morning.

Either would be a much more productive use of time.

[TKTguy]

I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays.

Boy doesn't this say it all - a rampie with 7 months of seniority getting summer vacation. You guys all want to be treated equal during contract time, but clearly we are not all equal at this company.

Cobra if it makes you feel any better it is winter in SYD

[whiteguy]

I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays.

Boy doesn't this say it all - a rampie with 7 months of seniority getting summer vacation. You guys all want to be treated equal during contract time, but clearly we are not all equal at this company.

Where did he say he had summer vacation? Not hard to go on a summer HOLIDAY with a couple shift trades. But I'm sure you've never done that right?

[MacDoo]

I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays.

Boy doesn't this say it all - a rampie with 7 months of seniority getting summer vacation. You guys all want to be treated equal during contract time, but clearly we are not all equal at this company.

Where did he say he had summer vacation? Not hard to go on a summer HOLIDAY with a couple shift trades. But I'm sure you've never done that right?

Nope..., never have. Can't get on any of the flights because the Jazz employees have priority over us guys that work at mainline.

[whiteguy]

Nope..., never have. Can't get on any of the flights because the Jazz employees have priority over us guys that work at mainline.

Nope.....Jazz employees are the same priority as AC employees!

[MacDoo]

Nope..., never have. Can't get on any of the flights because the Jazz employees have priority over us guys that work at mainline.

Nope.....Jazz employees are the same priority as AC employees!

BINGO! You just stated everything that is wrong with this company. Putting others, that are not even part of the company you work for, ahead of your own.

[TKTguy]

Oh Suck it up. We all started with low seniority. I do work for Jazz but I have been delivering
customer service to AC/Jazz customers for 21 years. We use to have different priorities but if I recall correctly AC commuters from Jazz (ZX,QK,GX,3J) bases weren't happy with us getting on those flights ahead of them. You can't have it both ways. Oh wait you do want that.

[HavaJava]

Air Canada employees are looking for a higher standby priority in Air Canada seats, not necessarily Air Canada planes. Seeing that Air Canada buys all the seats on all CPA flights that would eliminate the problem of commuters from Jazz bases being at a lower priority. But don't worry...Jazz employees will still have a higher priority on their Thomas Cook flights!

p.s. I'm not a Jazz hater...really, I don't hate Jazz...lots of friends and family there...I just think that Air Canada employees should go first within their own company.

[Takeoff OK]

Air Canada employees are looking for a higher standby priority in Air Canada seats, not necessarily Air Canada planes. Seeing that Air Canada buys all the seats on all CPA flights that would eliminate the problem of commuters from Jazz bases being at a lower priority. But don't worry...Jazz employees will still have a higher priority on their Thomas Cook flights!

p.s. I'm not a Jazz hater...really, I don't hate Jazz...lots of friends and family there...I just think that Air Canada employees should go first within their own company.

Are you talking about cabin seats or jumpseats?

Nobody should ever be able to trump a Jazz pilot for a Jazz jumspeat.

[whiteguy]

Nope..., never have. Can't get on any of the flights because the Jazz employees have priority over us guys that work at mainline.

Nope.....Jazz employees are the same priority as AC employees!

BINGO! You just stated everything that is wrong with this company. Putting others, that are not even part of the company you work for, ahead of your own.

Wow, if you don't like it your free to leave. Your probably one of those guys that thinks you should have a higher priority than all other employees to! Just remember you get the same seniority on Jazz flights to.

Sounds to me like it's this isn't a priority problem you have, it's more likely a juniority problem that you don't like. How many years?

[Pourdu_fun]

OMG, did I just went back in time!!!

[HavaJava]

Are you talking about cabin seats or jumpseats?

Nobody should ever be able to trump a Jazz pilot for a Jazz jumspeat.

I'm talking about cabin seats that Air Canada has bought through the CPA. Jazz jumpseats should definately be open to Jazz employees first...actually, they should be open to whoever the Captain decides he/she wants in there...but that's another story.

[ChallengerDan]

This is not going to be resolved in a public forum.

Everybody does know, I am sure, that ten years ago Jazz and Air Canada were ONE and ONLY corporation with Air Canada Regional a division of AC.

The Jazz Employee passing before you on the stanby list was already doing so after the unification of all the Air Canada regional feed.

I was not there during these times, but it seems fair to me that DOH within the respective company is used as this is the only common unit of measure available at this time... we all work for the same system... even if you guys at AC don't seem to agree.

[Cobra64]

I have been working on the ramp for 7 months now and am taking my wife on summer holidays.

Boy doesn't this say it all - a rampie with 7 months of seniority getting summer vacation. You guys all want to be treated equal during contract time, but clearly we are not all equal at this company.

I really don't understand what your problem is. I didn't create the system, I just got hired into it. If it makes you feel any better, the first shift bid I got right out of training was a 4/3 with Fri Sat Sun off. And even now I am a mid day 6x3 ramp shift, no overnights or 4am required! And yes I got the first two weeks of July off for vacation. Am I lucky? Yes. Am I just taking the best that is available when I bid? Yes. Maybe you are the one who should go spend a few days on a beach in SE Asia to chill out a little bit.

[MacDoo]

...just sayin', when it comes contract time, remember that we are NOT all the same.