Airplanes Having Tillers (Captain and CoPilot)?

[tdp19]

I was looking at some pictures, I thought most airplanes only had tillers on the captain side but it looked like the ATR-72 has a tiller on copilot side as well? Am I correct on the ATR? Do most airplanes have a right seat tiller as well?

Thanks

[Smitty]

As far as I know, it's an option on most planes that have tillers. Most airlines just don't get it.

I think you would see a lot of widebodies with two tillers.

Too bad really. FOs are perfectly capable of taxiing and should be allowed to do so. For the most part, they are Captains in training.

[FL_CH]

Airbus aircraft have them stock on the F/O side, at least beginning with the A320 family.

[oldtimer]

I think it is a case of what the requirements are or were in the USA when the airplane was first designed and certified. In the USA, the second pilot is not required to hold a type rating and the general policy in place is that all the brains and experience rests with the PIC sitting in the left seat. The right seat pilot is a combination cookie pusher, voice activated autopilot and doer of essential paperwork. The Gulfstream G1 turboprop only had a steering wheel tiller on the left side and in fact the airplane was actually set up so it could almost be flown single pilot because it was quite often the right seat pilots job to leave his/her seat and to the back to serve the meals and booze shortly after take-off. It is still a practice with some operators. In the Gulfstream G1, once the pressurization blower was turned on and the cabin altitude and temperature were set, the pilot in the left seat could reach everything else so the voice activated autopilot became the Stewart/Stewartess.
Just look at most twins designed for the business crowd or the rinky dink minimum safety commuter airline aircraft such as a Metro or Beech 1900. They are all set up to either be flown single pilot or have all the brains in the left seat. This practice is how many USA airlines are able to hire pilots fresh out of flight school as a "co-pilot". Fortunatly, here in Canada, the second pilot in most commercially operated aircraft are properly trained and type rated so if the airplane were purchased and equipped new by a Canadian operator, they will have as much equipment as possible in the right seat pilot position. As an example, many Metro aircrat have an HSI only on the LSP side and a simple attitude indicator and directional gyro on the RSP side. Most Metros have the ADF indicator over on the lower left side of the panel, completley hidden from the RSP.
SO. for all you young co-pilots, how does it feel to be a placebo or a LLPBA. (Looks like pilot, but aint)

[KK7]

The DHC-7 only has a tiller on the left side, however it is possible to taxi from the right seat when either the nose wheel steering is unserviceable or if you simply turn it off. Due to the castering nose wheel one can control it with brakes and differential power. In our case with the nose wheel steering on, the rudder pedals do offer a small amount of steering deflection for the take off roll, but I understand some aircraft do not have this and a transfer of control needs to take place at high speed if the FO is going to do the take off.

[team shifty]

At the company I work for none of our ATR 42's or 72's have tillers on the F/O's side. It's possible that it could be an option but I don't know.

[SAR_YQQ]

Boeing 707 only has left side wheel. Right seat takeoffs are conducted with co-pilot taking control of the rudders after 80 KIAS.

[bcflyer]

The DHC-8, Fokker 100 and Emb all have the tiller on the left side only. All are completely controllable from the right seat on T/O from brake release on. I've never heard of waiting till a higher speed to hand control of the rudders to the F/O on takeoff. If you can't keep an aircraft straight down the middle of a runway using rudder (and a bit of nosewheel steering that you have through them) there is something seriously wrong.

I've never flown a 707. Can you not turn the nosewheel at all with the right seat rudders?

[fish4life]

I know of aircraft with a narrow runway that the cpt is on the tiller to v1 even on an FO take off

[Rowdy]

The twotter has a tiller only on the left side

[bcflyer]

I know of aircraft with a narrow runway that the cpt is on the tiller to v1 even on an FO take off

What aircraft would that be?

[Eric Janson]

I was looking at some pictures, I thought most airplanes only had tillers on the captain side but it looked like the ATR-72 has a tiller on copilot side as well? Am I correct on the ATR? Do most airplanes have a right seat tiller as well?

Thanks

737-300 - Tiller on left side only. There is an option to have one installed on the right hand side.
757/767 - Tiller on both sides.
A320/330/340 - Tiller on both sides.

I've flown for companies where the First Officer was allowed to taxi and for companies where the Captain was PF on the ground.

Increasingly companies no longer allow First Officers to taxi from the right seat - insurance/liability issue. Also some docking systems are designed to be viewed correctly only from the left side.

[50'minimums]

SAAB 340 tiller on the left side only, cojoe takes control at 80 kts on the take off roll.

[Lost in Saigon]

757/767 - Tiller on both sides.

Air Canada currently operates 32 B767's and only one has a tiller on the right side.

All of their B777's have both left and right side tillers. SOP does not allow the FO to taxi, but some Captains do it anyway.

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

Q400 left side only

[Cap'n Tripps]

J31 (and J32?) on left side only, that I've seen, but apparently available on both sides.

[SAR_YQQ]

I've never flown a 707. Can you not turn the nosewheel at all with the right seat rudders?

The rudder pedals move the rudder through the RPCU - there is no link to the nosewheel. At around 80KIAS, the jet is actually moving fast enough for the rudder to become effective in steering - hence the call "my aircraft". I imagine that we could use differential power to try and control the jet while taxiing - it would not be very effective or pretty. If we lose utility hydraulics, we plan on shutting down and waiting for a tow.

[bcflyer]

Thanks for the explanation. I assume that the captain takes control on landing before 80kts?

[rigpiggy]

the jetstream sop was a little wierd but as they said txfr control thru 80kts, both ways

[SAR_YQQ]

I assume that the captain takes control on landing before 80kts?

Yup - the left seat will take control and leave the right seat holding the yoke.