Instructing while working other full time flying job.

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Instructing while working other full time flying job.

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Hey Guys,
My instructor rating is still valid, and I intend to always keep it valid because I enjoy teaching quite a bit, my full time job is flying in the 703/704 world, under the contract with the company I cannot fly commercially outside my employment with the company, however I would still like to instruct in some way, I was trying to think of ways I can still do this in some way, being a tech oriented guy I was thinking of starting a website catering to student pilots that would have perhaps simple ground school lessons or flight lesson guide, quizzes, things like that, perhaps even a iApp or two once i fully learn how to do that.

Any other ideas?

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Given your restriction another potential opportunity to instruct would be to teach in a flight simulator. If you can find a school with a Redbird Sim or on a similar level, you can teach some IFR.
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Instruct anyways. You paid for your licence yourself. Unless you break your flight time, I don't see why there's a problem. The couple of 705 operators I worked for never had a problem with this.
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Unless this 703/704 also has a flight school I say go for it.
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If you do go for it, I hope you have enough room to do it within your flight time limitations... Otherwise you might just find yourself without a job.
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Your full-time employer may or may not be concerned with liability associated with moonlighting. I have seen a full-time employer successfully sued for damages due to negligence of a part-timer (AME, not pilot).
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I have always been up front to my employers about the flying I did on the side. The few that had a problem with it were invited to fire me but no one ever took me up on the offer

I would keep instructing if I were you, just make sure it doesn't interfere with your full time job.
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ahramin wrote:I have always been up front to my employers about the flying I did on the side. The few that had a problem with it were invited to fire me but no one ever took me up on the offer

I would keep instructing if I were you, just make sure it doesn't interfere with your full time job.
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I agree with most of you regarding moonlighting...as long as it doesn't put you close or over time limits with the first employer BUT you guys are missing a key piece of info the op presented -
under the contract with the company I cannot fly commercially outside my employment with the company,
If he flies outside that company - and better check the wording on that for all details/conditions - that alone would be cause for dismissal. If it wasn't in the contract, I'd say go for it.
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Interesting topic so here's a question. Instructors don't have a duty time or any time limitations. Soo...

Let's say you worked for a company for 2 months straight, you maxed out your DUTY TIME. You jump off the last flight for the company and straight into a flight school aircraft. Is that legal?

I had a conversation with a flight instructor about this in the opposite. He really had to watch his time because if he had flown as an instructor for 8 hours right before reporting for duty he would effectively be timed out the moment he walked through the door...
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Most operators have wording in their policy that restricts such activity.
The company that I used to work for required written permission from the base Chief Pilot which was valid for twelve months and carried the previously-mentioned restrictions on flying beyond the monthly maximum, I know this as I applied for, and received, permission to instruct outside the airline.
Common sense would indicate that companys don't want their pilots to fly for the competition across the street on their days off, something that has happened in the past and that is what this policy is intended to restrict.
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Common sense would indicate that companys don't want their pilots to fly for the competition across the street on their days off, something that has happened in the past and that is what this policy is intended to restrict.
That and some companies wanna bust your *alls for all of the 1200 hours a year and don't want you using up their time.
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