Received my first paycheque today. Good/bad.

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Ever since many of us started training, I'm sure we've been saying that the first time you get handed a paycheque for flying a plane (instead of the other way around) is going to be one of the happiest day of your life. I know I have. I've been thinking about it every day for 3 years.

Just wanted to share that today, it actually, finally, happened.

It's unfortunate that it will be the only one for a while though..... hence the "bad" part of the subject line.

I just finished my CPL 6 months ago, then for the last few months I've been in the incredibly lucky position of being tasked to source, purchase, then manage and fly a corporate aircraft for a growing construction company. Was just a random and coincidental turn of events and contacts that lead to it.
Unfortunately, on the very day the company was to take delivery of the plane they had to back out for unrelated reasons. They had to eat the deposit, and all the associated costs for inspections, etc.
Even with that dangling carrot of flying a Navajo around Toronto gone, even though I now find myself unemployed, I can't look back on any of it with regret- Blisteringly bringing myself up to speed on how the hell to manage all aspects of an airplane I have learnt far, far more about administration, ownership, mx, imports, etc, in the last few months than I had throughout the entire CPL. Talk about hitting the ground running.
Anyhow, they paid for all my time and expenses, as well as the test flights in various aircraft. So, proudly it's my first aviation paycheque... arrived by mail today.
Couldn't have done it with a LOT of help from a lot of other people, including members here like my buddy cdnpilot77.... who is the only other person I know who dreams of bacon double cheeseburgers. (I thought I was the only one... All these years....)

Thats all. It's been a big deal for me, and just wanted to share it.

Bittersweet, back to the resumes. :)
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It sucks so much that it ended the way it did...upwards and onwards, there are bigger and better things on the horizon for a guy as dedicated as you are and have been! Thanks for the kind words and really, who DOESN'T dream of bacon double cheeseburgers?
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cdnpilot77 wrote:who DOESN'T dream of bacon double cheeseburgers?
I agree! Its an all consuming repetative dream that just haunts me every night!

Seriously though, Keep your chin up Dan, and your head up high, something is bound to be around the corner!

Best of luck,

A fellow double bacon cheeseburger addict,
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Hey Dan WEC;

I'm guessing you are a young man and pretty bright from the sound of what you were up to there, sourcing an aircraft, test flying, doing the paper work.....

There are some who would say no big deal...but it is a big deal and i can relate to what happened to you with the construction company.....

I'm retired now but i spent a career in the construction business and it did allow me to fly, and my own aircraft at that....but that business has more up and downs than a 150 on a clear air turbulent day....

Aside from being paid for your efforts you have gained some valuable experience and some day further along in your career you will be able to say to someone, yup! been there done that, piece of cake.....now lets git er done..

Good Luck in aviation.....

Regards;
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Ah, bacon double cheese burgers! A small step for man. A giant leap for mankind. From Kraft Dinner.....
77, you know what to do.....
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Doc wrote:Ah, bacon double cheese burgers! A small step for man. A giant leap for mankind. From Kraft Dinner.....
77, you know what to do.....

:lol: I'm on it
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You know I'm here for the burger talk. Oh, and hope you get another flying Job soon Dan.
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I should edit to add what type of dream..... As in the opposite of dry. :) its BACON for fricks sake!

Anyhow I'm not that young, or that bright... (you didn't mention good looking....) but I really appreciate the words of encouragement. They mean a lot, but I'm certainly not moping. The experience far outweighs the disappointment of the outcome. I'm far more proud of taking on the challenge and what the cheque represents.
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You didn't mention if you were going to be a co pilot or not but if they were going to hand you the keys to a Navajo single pilot straight out of flight school you may have been a statistic in very short order. Maybe fate did you a favour in the long run. Not to say you absolutely couldn't have handled it but the Ho is a lot of aeroplane and with it you can get into a great deal of trouble at 3 miles a minute.

You'll see what I mean when you get there...and you will. :wink: Good luck and have fun along the way.
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you can get into a great deal of trouble at 3 miles a minute
Not sure I really agree with that particular comment, which I hear a lot.

I am sure a Ho is busy on departure and arrival (just like any other piston
twin) and really boring in cruise on autopilot. In my experience it really
doesn't matter whether you're going 1 or 8 nm/min in cruise, it's still
pretty boring.

I'm sure Dan could learn to uneventfully take off and land a piston twin.
It's not the space shuttle, after all.

My opinion - worth what you paid me for it - is that a low-time pilot in
a (supposedly) all-weather IFR twin would get into trouble primarily
because of the decisions he might make - for example, deciding to
take a flight into moderate icing, or solid Cb's in the summer. And
he might get a little busy, flying into an unfamiliar, busy airport at
night. Let's hope a functioning autopilot was part of the deal, even
though it's not legally required.

To reduce his workload on departure and arrival, and to help with the
difficult decisions, another pilot (preferably higher time) in the right
seat might be a good idea.

Again, worth what you paid me for it. Crap away from a great height.
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Yeah that's all I was saying in a nut shell. It's not the space shuttle but 3 miles a minute when you learned at one and a half compounds those un experienced based decisions quickly. An ultralight can kill you at half a mile a minute if you're not careful. But the Ho is a complex piece of machinery and throw in an owner who NEEDS to get there for that whatever and you have pressure. To safely cope with that pressure you need experience.

:wink: No great height here...just opinion, some sarcasm, and a little bitterness thrown in at random intervals for good measure.
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Co-Joe, not to worry it was dealt with ad nauseum by Dan and those of us directly involved with assisting him when he asked for or needed it. Much to his credit, when he was unsure about something he asked!!...unfortunately, it didnt pan out and that really sucked mainly because of how deep into the process it was, they were less than a day from taking posession of the airplane. But as we all know, this industry has a funny way of giving you a 90degree turn at the most unexpected moments...I am very confident that Dan will secure a position and be a VERY good employee for someone!
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an owner who NEEDS to get there for that whatever
Exactly! IMHO, that's the biggest problem an inexperienced pilot
would face with this scenario - being able to tell the owner that
today is not a good day to die, when the wx exceeds the capabilities
of the aircraft.

Owners are different of course, but some really need a book written
about them. Anyone ever heard of Tim Horton's?
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Once again, that was discussed and dealt with ad nauseum. The owners were well aware of the capabilities of the pilot and the airplane and the limitations of weather, they were on board as they are living a very nice lifestyle and didnt want to die either
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I should add of course that it is understood there would be times where they see a Porter Q-400 come into Windsor and wonder why they couldn't go in thier Navajo, and the strength of Dans character would be tasked with dealing with such a situation.
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What was that guy's name ... Ron something?
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Burgundy?

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Ron Burgundy: For just one night let's not be Co-workers. Let's be Co-people.
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Headline: "Pilot Faces Adversity in Aviation Industry".

This is just the beginning, Tonto. Wear a helmet or get some knee pads. It's good to get knocked around a bit when you're young. Some of the most successful people in history once looked at the world for the very position you now occupy.
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I'm not surprised someone touched on the low time aspect. It's a completely valid point however, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little apprehensive of some of the scenarios I'd face, but I aint no fool, and took several measures to mitigate that risk as much as I could. I'm certainly not afraid to ask questions, even ones that I know might sound borderline retarded; better safe and stupid than dead and dumb.

I studied relentlessly the last while. Had plenty of discussions.... then had a few more. had 10 hours of dual training with an industry heavyweight set up. Was to finish it off with an actual PPC with a well known TC guy. Also was working to get a higher time guy than myself (again, cdnpilot77) to be on the contract to sit right seat for various flights and be the backup pilot.

In the employment contract I wrote up it stated explicitly that there would be flights that would be called no-go's for various reasons, and I wouldn't get any repercussions for it.

I know it's not a replacement with raw experience, but I did what I could!

And 60 percent of the time, it works every time.........
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Take the pay stub and put it in a scrap book. Getting your first paycheck in aviation is a great thing.Its nice to go back and look at it years later when you are well established in your career.
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Good to hear you got the first cheque! And hope you find something bigger and even better in the future!

I also have too add that I am posting this on my iPhone from a table in a small restaurant while I wait for my bacon double cheese burger and fries to arrive!! Ah ha it's here!!!
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Hey Dan, your going to have a few false starts in this rat race. Sorry to hear things didnt work out, but as you pointed out you gained some good experience. Keep a positive attitude, and a willingness to go where others won't and you'll do just fine.
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It's good to hear there are still great opportunities for lower time pilots, however short they might be. Hopefully it will work out better next time for you! Keep up the good work.

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