ACA

[Mitchel]

I recently became licensed and will now be acquiring my ACA on the type of aircraft that I have been apprenticing on for the last three years. The AMO that I work for seems to think that an engineer that has been licensed longer than I have (with no ACA) is worth more than myself with ACA. Basically there are a couple of us getting ACA'd with new guys walking in off the street with no experience on type making more money. I'm not sure what you guys think, but to me a guy with signing authority is worth more money hands down. Any way to go about fixing this?

[helicopterray]

An AME with more experience is always worth more money that an AME who just got licensed, up to a certain point.

An ACA simply means you can certify maintenance on behalf of that AMO.
An AME that is experienced can get an ACA without too much difficulty.

[Troubleshot]

ACA= More liability = More $$....end of story. You sign off the "more experienced" AME's work and the engine falls off, who do you think they are going to hang?

This is a no brainer to me, if this "experienced" AME was so good why isn't he getting an ACA. Something doesn't add up here.

[747-875]

Tough situation. A good experienced AME is definately worth their weight in gold and then some. However, at the end of the day when you're all admiring the smoking hole in the ground, it's the ACA holder who signed it out who goes to jail. I would say a good AME without ACA and a new AME with ACA should be paid about the same, but if anything the ACA holder slightly more. I know my company pays an extra buck or two just for having ACA, and I wouldn't sign a thing unless I was getting the extra pay for it.


747-875

[Heliian]

An experienced guy is definitely worth more, what kind of type are we talkin? Your ACA gives you a better foothold in the company and since you've been there longer, you may have seniority when it comes to shitcanning people. Make your own money deals and forget what everyone else is making, what are you happy with? There is always going to be someone getting paid more and someone less, get over it.

[Valkyrie_XB70]

Is it a case of these new hire AME's are experienced AME's and the company is just waiting through their probationary period before granting them ACA?

Now I have to ask is what you are being paid fair?

[Mitchel]

Enough said

[Eleveniron]

Have you asked your employer to explain their reasoning for it?

[black hole]

Holly?,Wholy?, Holy?: S**t:

Does anyone here know what they're so eager to sign for?---Well; there's Jethro (who makes it in most days) (but today: his eyes look like two piss hole in the snow) And the crew chief gives him the task to change the hydraulic pump, (he does'nt know why, or does he care). He does change the pump,but in the process he has to loosen the lines to the vacuum pump for easier access.

The crew chief comes and looks over his work and vissualy looks OK. The entry goes on the work sheet and guess who gets to sign?

This is the part that I don't get. You are presented with the log books( all filled out and the crew chief is called out on another snag, Jethro is polishing his tools in a dark corner of the hangar). You did not assign the work or supervise the completion, or test the function.but you whistle your pen out( all for a-buck-an-hour) and sign for the release.

Maybe an overdramatization of a situation or is it? did Jethro retighen the vacuum lines?

All for a-buck-an-hour???


BH

[dashx]

worth more

Is it your place to decide who is worth more (or less) in the work place?

Having an ACA is a privilege granted to you by the company you work for. At least you will learn what the word trust means.

573.05 Qualifications for Signing a Maintenance Release

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/r ... 3s-243.htm

Enjoy your privilege. Don't be petty when it comes to salary.

[azimuthaviation]

ACA= More liability = More $$....end of story. You sign off the "more experienced" AME's work and the engine falls off, who do you think they are going to hang?

This is a no brainer to me, if this "experienced" AME was so good why isn't he getting an ACA. Something doesn't add up here.

Ive only heard of one person being sentenced to death for signing off something that failed, and that was in Iran. (the sentence wasn't carried out) Do you really think the extra liabity is worth more money? If you had the choice to work on aircraft that was owner maintained or home built but you were offered less money since you were not signing it out would you take that deal? Most likely not. Im sure you would rather take the extra money and sign it off even though you expose yourself to the "risk" of being liable, am I right?

[CID]

Pay scales generally take experience (loyalty) AND responsibility into account. If a AME has been with the company for several years, chances are that he has worked his way to the top of the pay scale with respect to experience.

An ACA should bump up the wage but it shouldn't necessarily place you above someone who has been around long enough to work their way up to the top of the "experience" pay scale.