Pilots with second jobs

[LAX]

Hey guys,

Seems like with the current operator I'm working for I have a of down time these days.
Just wondering what other pilots have done as second jobs/careers that works around aviation?

[MorePower!]

I have always thought about getting into property management.. If finances allow.
Think it would be a nice little side business. Or flipping houses if you've got the know how.

[av8tor_assrope]

You're probably going to get some idiots ranting off "who do you work for?...you should be paid more and not have to work another job ect ect"

Anyways I know guys that have owned their own franchise, paramedic, patient transfer, volunteer fire fighter, instruct (if your company allows), supply teach, volunteer, worked part time at hockey life, odd construction gig. Just some that I can recall. Hell theres an aviation doctor in the GTA that is an Air Canada pilot......but that's what we call a real overachiever.

[CellPh2]

He's also an engineer. Great guy too.

[Colonel Sanders]

overachiever

Never understood that term. Makes it sound like
he suffers from some kind of disfiguring disease.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome

Tall poppy syndrome (TPS) is a pejorative term primarily used in the UK, Canada, New Zealand and other Anglosphere nations to describe a social phenomenon in which people of genuine merit are resented, attacked, cut down, or criticised because their talents or achievements elevate them above or distinguish them from their peers

[BTyyj]

Overachiever by definition isn't a derogatory term.

[Colonel Sanders]

In Canada, it sure as hell is. Like having leprosy. Canadians
really resent successful people. They claim that if someone
is successful, they must have cheated somehow, because of
the socialist egalitarian premise that everyone is identical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistribution_(economics)

[BTyyj]

CS, this topic has already been discussed thoroughly on these forums, and I don't believe its worthwhile to wreck another thread to continue arguing about it. Needless to say, I think that we can both agree success isn't solely based on hard-work and ability.

To answer the original poster's question, I know many pilots who work second jobs, or even third jobs. If you can find something that is flexible, you shouldn't have too much trouble doing both. Self-employed would be the best option.

[Colonel Sanders]

I think that we can both agree success isn't solely based on hard-work and ability

What self-serving, rationalizing nonsense.

You think that doctor/engineer/AC pilot in Toronto didn't
have to bust his @ss to get his BSc in Engineering, his
MD, and his ATPL?

I see an awful lot of hard work - and ability - in his success.

Are you proposing that he was given his BSc or MD or ATPL?
Did he inherit them? Was he just "lucky" because they
were handing them out at MacDonald's one day with the
children's toys, and he "just happened" to be there at the time?

The damage that Pierre Trudeau did to Canada is incalculable.

Try to develop a work ethic. Try really hard.

[BTyyj]

If we are talking about success in terms of money, then I definitely defend my statement, especially being in Alberta. In the cases you mentioned, success does come from hard work. If people are finding success through lifestyle, that doesn't necessarily take hard work, but more a personal decision.

Try to develop a work ethic. Try really hard.

Is this directed at me?

[pelmet]

Needless to say, I think that we can both agree success isn't solely based on hard-work and ability.

Very true Frosty. We unfortunately we have racists and sexists in society that insist on laws to hire people based on race and gender(affirmative action) instead of hard-work and ability.

[shamrock104]

How childish

[Blue Yonder]

Back on topic....

Build websites or something to do with IT that you can be done with your laptop...after you're done perusing porn of course.

Blue

[howard40]

Is there porn on the internet? wow!

[howard40]

Work ethic alone never made anyone "successful"
work ethic alone never made anyone rich,
everyone that is "successful" is not rich,
everyone that is rich did not necessarily work hard
everyone that is rich is not necessarily "successful"
however like the luck meter in another thread ,I would agree that a good work ethic,and education, applied towards some sort of goal , may make your luck better , and make you reasonably "successful" and give you some moderate financial means , at least . If you are happy doing it all, you are "successful"... if all of the above comes with a bit of luck ,you might be rich, and if you are still happy , all the better...

[JDW]

"I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

[co-joe]

Interesting. Sorta along the same lines as the analogy that you don't need a lid on a bucket full of crabs eh?

[azimuthaviation]

You think that doctor/engineer/AC pilot in Toronto didn't
have to bust his @ss to get his BSc in Engineering, his
MD, and his ATPL?

I see an awful lot of hard work - and ability - in his success.

Bashar al-Assad got his MD from Oxford, is qualified to fly jet fighters, flies his own presidential jet, and although doesnt have an engineering degree, is the dictator of his own Middle Eastern nation. He also is a moron and seems somewhat delusional so I'm agreeing that

success isn't solely based on hard-work and ability.

[DanWEC]

I still bartend part time- however with my level of experience and the well known places I've worked and managed in the past it's fairly easy to pick a little pub and settle in for a while.
Being damn good looking helps too. Ahh.
I still have yet to come remotely close to making the same money in aviation, but I'm only one very interesting year into it, so that's to be expected.

If you're younger and personable, try applying to the chains if all you want is a few bucks on the side. Sometimes you can get in without any experience. May not seem like the most professional gig, but just throwing the option out there.

Cheers,
DC

[LAX]

Thanks for all the input. All sound like solid ideas. Going to have to investigate a few of these ideas.

[Tanker299]

If you live in the north EMS Fire and RCMP jail guard are all great options. They are usually desperate for reliable people that can stay sober when on call. They are also highly portable jobs plus they pay well. I work on the EMS for the winter rather then collect EI or work some dead end job for min wage. With the on call stuff I can also earn a little extra even when flying in any town up here. Not that my employer pays that bad but more is always better.

[pelmet]

How childish

Nice to see that you agree on how childish these racist and sexist laws are. Thanks.

Hire the best for the job.

How mature.

[jspitfire]

Photographer seems to work pretty good!

[Shiny Side Up]

Most of the big box hardware stores usually need people for their late shifts, I used to do this part time for a few extra bucks in our slower season, though our slow season isn't slow anymore so I stopped doing it. The main perk is getting an employee discount which can save you a ton of money being a poor pilot. I used it primarily to complete my dremel collection, though it came in extra useful when I needed a new hot water heater. Don't work for blue and yellow, orange and red and yellow have better employee benefits. Having a forklift operator's ticket helps in this regard, that's always in demand at these places.

[bananaskins767]

Pilots away from their day job (flying airplanes) have previously made great:
1. Pimps
2. Drug Lords
3. Snitches
4. Policemen
5. Bartenders
6. Coachmen
7. Teachers (not so bad!)
8. Hit-men
9. Cross-dressing consultants
10. Bouncers
11. Tattoo Artists
12. Presidents (India)

And many more respectable professions boast a pilot or two among their staff or management. Fear not young man. Go out there and show the world what sort of stuff pilots are made of!!

Good luck!