Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
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Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
Hello Everyone,
I've been researching a number of plane crashes in northern Ontario, Canada and I am wondering if anyone could help me by answering the following questions.
1. If a Junkers W.33fi was submerged in fresh water lake for 80 years, would the metal be totally corroded?
2. What about any paint or identifying labels on the body of the plane?
3. Are there any mechanical devices - besides magnets – that are used for detecting metal objects in water?
Thank you in advance for any help that you can provide.
Bill Thompson
I've been researching a number of plane crashes in northern Ontario, Canada and I am wondering if anyone could help me by answering the following questions.
1. If a Junkers W.33fi was submerged in fresh water lake for 80 years, would the metal be totally corroded?
2. What about any paint or identifying labels on the body of the plane?
3. Are there any mechanical devices - besides magnets – that are used for detecting metal objects in water?
Thank you in advance for any help that you can provide.
Bill Thompson
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Moose47
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Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
G'day Bill
Send me a PM and I will direct you to my aircraft recovery team leader.
Cheers...Chris
Send me a PM and I will direct you to my aircraft recovery team leader.
Cheers...Chris
Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
Wrong thread. Thought you'd found my mother-in-law.
Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
The Canadian Harvard Aircraft Association based out of Tillsonburg Ontario, has a Dive Recovery Team that might be able to answer all your questions.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2 ... 109&ref=mf
Good Luck
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Good Luck
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Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
"Tillsonburg....my back still aches when I here that Wooord"
Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
Keep in mind, if the airplane has been submerged for more than 30 years or so, the engine may not start. Just saying.
Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
For the most part , unless this aircraft is deeply submerged, it will be pretty badly decomposed.
You should really weigh the value of raising vs dollars spent .
At 80 years old the wood will be almost all gone. Depending on the water acidity level, zebra mussles , currents that can create sand blasting etc the aluminium may be as fragile as pie crust.
On top of that you must consider the condition as per the incident that put it in the lake in the first place
The wreck may be good for a diorama but in most cases very little get used in a flying restoration .
However , if it is a very rare aircraft or one that may have no examples in Museums, then it could be worth raising
Good luck with the expidition if you decide to try and keep us posted on the progress.
You should really weigh the value of raising vs dollars spent .
At 80 years old the wood will be almost all gone. Depending on the water acidity level, zebra mussles , currents that can create sand blasting etc the aluminium may be as fragile as pie crust.
On top of that you must consider the condition as per the incident that put it in the lake in the first place
The wreck may be good for a diorama but in most cases very little get used in a flying restoration .
However , if it is a very rare aircraft or one that may have no examples in Museums, then it could be worth raising
Good luck with the expidition if you decide to try and keep us posted on the progress.
Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
Just heard that the legend has passed on..gianthammer wrote:"Tillsonburg....my back still aches when I here that Wooord"
Funny, first thing I thought of was having read this post the other day.
Re: Finding a wreck that's been submerged for 80 years
You might be surprised at what is left.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_W_33
All metal and heavily built
Tom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_W_33
All metal and heavily built
Tom



