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More crazy hours requirements!

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Aircraft: PA 31-350 & PA31T2

Position: First Officer

Experience Required: 1800+ Total 400+ Multi-Pic Navajo or Cheyenne time an asset

Just crazy no? (OK, perhaps the Cheyenne would need these hours, but a 'ho??!)

Anyway, thought this would provide a chuckle! Roll on those lowering minimums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by JigglyBus »

I was curious about the NCA Beech 350 job aswell.

"minimum 500 Hrs total, 250 Multi, 250 PIC. Only applicants with 50 hrs on type need apply"

The 500 and 250/250 is fine, but 50 on type? And ONLY then need you apply?

What kind of candidate pool is that? How many guys can there possibly be out there that have 50 hours on a 350 that want an f/o job?

I wouldn't think many, but maybe they know something I don't.

Not only that, if a guy had 500 with 50 on type, wouldn't he/she just have started a new job? So, they want him to quit after 50 hours? What kind of employee would that be?
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Post by co-joe »

I was wondering this myself. Would any king air time be considered 'on type' or are they looking for only the 350? Kind of retarded eh? Who from Sunwest or the AB gov would leave to go to N Carobou? :lol:
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Post by greenwich »

Don't worry boys...

We are entering a new era! All of these companies that don't adjust their crazy time-requirements are going to hit the wall as AC and Jazz starts hiring.

How many 3,000h KA guys are going to hang around small charter outfits when Jazz or AC call. Answer '0'!!

The companies that are pro-active now and start hiring lower-timers to fill this impending void are the ones who will be sucesful!!

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Post by TTail »

Heres another doozy on the job ads board:

]Job Description:
We are seeking Captains and F/O experienced on B 1900D for an
extendable 12 months contract in the Caribbean's. We need 1 Captain and 1 F/O.
Conditions will be unveiled at selection but should include Travel and
Lodging.
CAPTAINS
FAA Licence
Minimal 6000 hours Total time
1000 hours on type

Current on type
Valid PPC
Current Class One Medical
Valid Passport
Must Produce Police Abstract
Certified Logbook
Reference required

FIRST OFFICER
FAA Licence
Minimal3000 hours total time
500 hours on type

Current on type
Valid PPC
Class One Medical
Valid Passport
Must Produce a Police Abstract
Certified Logbook
References required

Send your resumes Quickly!

Closing Date:30 September 2005


and don't even try telling me that's due to insurance requirements.
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Post by Right Seat Captain »

Okay, so all these guys require crazy amounts of time to fly their aircraft, but the Air Canada site now says:
Job Requirements

To fly for Air Canada, pilots must meet certain basic requirements:

- 1000 hours of fixed wing flying time
- Completion of schooling to the university entrance level. Ability to pass the Air Canada and Transport Canada medical and visual acuity requirements for a Category 1 medical certificate.
- Canadian Commercial Pilot licence, current Instrument Rating and Multi-Engine endorsement.
- Canadian citizenship or landed immigrant status.
Thats from their site: http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/career/pilots.html

Now I know they probably wouldn't hire someone except the boss's daughter with that kind of low time, but thats at least what they say. So now all these companies flying navajo's and Cessna Caravans requireing more time are starting to look a little silly.
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Post by DA900 »

Yes "Send your resumes Quickly" I sure don't want to have any other 6000+hr pilots beat me for that postion! :smt091
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Re: More crazy hours requirements!

Post by fougapilot »

ZBB118.10 wrote:Position: First Officer

Experience Required: 1800+ Total 400+ Multi-Pic Navajo or Cheyenne time an asset
Mmmm, to me this sounds like an Ontario Medevac operator. They are imposed minimums by the MOH and cannot go around them. Now before you all start yelling at me, I am fully aware the minimum for a F/O pisotion is well below what them are asking. Again, to me this would indicate that the person(s) they are looking for will move to the left seat rather quickly...
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Post by wha happen »

6000 hours captain for a 1900. are these guys right out to lunch
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Post by bizjet_mania »

Guys when AC was saying apply with 1000 hrs it doesn't mean you are going to get hired with that many hours. They want you to apply so they can keep track of you and once they think you have enough hours in the future they will call you. AC requires 4000 hours right now, but the last few bunch to be hired had over 6500 hours and I think the youngest in the group was like 35 or 36 yrs old. My friend is in the training department and thats what he told me. Even for Jazz you won't get hired with 1000 hours but they figure in 2 or 3 years you should have around 2500 hours so then they will call you.
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Post by hz2p »

I may be wrong, but I suspect the reason that AC posted those low mins was so they could hire a few politically-correct hires, or perhaps some sons and nephews, while appearing to obey the rules.

If you're a white, english-speaking male, 1000 hours ain't gonna do it. But if you're a french-speaking woman "of colour", 1000 hours might do it.

AC has hired some women with very low time over the last 10 years or so.
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Post by water wings »

geeez, it must suck having to sit next to you in that plane if you are a qualified women of colour, tabarnac.
since when has the actions of one low time white male hire reflected poorly on every other anglo white guy?
i wouldn't wish the aforementionned combination of race, sex and language on my worst enemy in aviation- no matter how well you do or how qualified you are, there is always some jackass thinking he is the only guy that has ever had it tough in his life and that you got it all handed to you... Take responsibility for your own career path and stop worrying about petty BS that only makes you look like the jackass.

AC, as well as several other companies have hired some very low time Males over the past ten years or so... get over it, i did.
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Post by evalle »

I think hz2p did not mean to offend anyone.
I think you are naive to think that race, age, raccomandation doesn't count.
The all human right thing is BS, a lot workplace give you priority if you are minority, male, female, Italian, Indian, black or white.
I belive that hiring is all politics and aviation is full of politics, and often is more important who you know than what you know.
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YOU ARE ALL WRONG...... the reason for such low minimums to AC is to help the good old boys club...the Canadian Military pilots.... :twisted:
not whatever minorities the white boys are getting their panties in a knot about...worried a "female" or a "minority" might get the job they "deserve".
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Post by quickflight »

You can't get hired at AC with 1000hrs period. That's 1000 fixed wing. Minimum is of course at least 1500hrs because you have to have an ATPL. So 500 heli 1000 fixed and an ATPL with military experienece we'll let you send that in.
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Post by duplicate2 »

How about this for a '67
FIRST OFFICER
ICAO Licence
Minimum 500 hours total time
1000 hours on Type

Current on Type
Valid PPC
Current Class One Medical
Valid Passport
Muust Produce Police Abstract
Certified Logbook
3 References Required
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Waterwings - ask that question in Quebec. :?
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Post by TTail »

duplicate2 wrote:How about this for a '67
FIRST OFFICER
ICAO Licence
Minimum 500 hours total time
1000 hours on Type

Current on Type
Valid PPC
Current Class One Medical
Valid Passport
Muust Produce Police Abstract
Certified Logbook
3 References Required
I'm sure this one's a typo otherwise it wouldn't make any sense. The total time should probably read 5000 instead of 500.
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"a lot workplace give you priority if you are minority, male, female, Italian, Indian, black or white"

Evalle...what are you saying here? also since when do Italians come into this? Dude...are you drunk?
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Post by evalle »

What i am trying to say is that a lot of companies (not all) have their politics for hiring, someone could prefer Italians, someone else females applicants, etc.
Sorry but i have to go drink some vino...
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Post by water wings »

just another pilot wrote:Waterwings - ask that question in Quebec. :?
OK

OK

should i ask it in English, French or Spanish... when i was in AB, one company told me to take the languages off my CV - it only hindered my chances. huh?
I miss the west, things are so simple.
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yes they are.
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evalle wrote: The all human right thing is BS, a lot workplace give you priority if you are minority, male, female, Italian, Indian, black or white.

Eh Oh....fogiboutut!!!!
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Post by classiv »

I think the victim-rights industry may have added Italians to the list of historically oppressed groups in this country that require a leg up to get them out of contruction and other low level jobs.

There was talk about doing this in the United States. I'm not sure whatever became of it. I think some Italians found the idea rather patronizing and offensive.
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classiv wrote:I think the victim-rights industry may have added Italians to the list of historically oppressed groups in this country that require a leg up to get them out of contruction and other low level jobs.
Uh, have you worked for any Italians in construction? Sure, their sons might have low level jobs, but all the Italians I know in construction have worked their buts off, and are or soon will be making a killing at it.
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