Any students graduates from Western Ontario?

[jncrw]

I am hoping to go to Western and study CAM but i am kind of stuck in BC with a job for a few years. After talking to Western I was told that they do not do pre assessment for credit transfer. I already have a diploma in Tourism travel at Seneca ON and worked as a flight attendant at CX. (Flying as a flight attendant just doesn't do it for me anymore!)

I am just wondering if there is any programs that i will be able to do part time in BC, and later on transfer those credits to Western once I have fulfilled my commitment in BC because the sole purpose of me going to school now will be later deducing my school year in Western, so I wanna make sure the chances for their acceptance will be good. And also, will getting a PPL help me thru my school years as in terms of getting exempted for flying courses?

Hoping will find some insight from the previous grad students or people who have similar experience. Thank you very much!

[leo_ding]

not sutdy in UWO,but get training in london, just want to say The ATC in london is quite friendly for the rookie pilot.

[kmf.kenif]

I am hoping to go to Western and study CAM but i am kind of stuck in BC with a job for a few years. After talking to Western I was told that they do not do pre assessment for credit transfer. I already have a diploma in Tourism travel at Seneca ON and worked as a flight attendant at CX. (Flying as a flight attendant just doesn't do it for me anymore!)

I am just wondering if there is any programs that i will be able to do part time in BC, and later on transfer those credits to Western once I have fulfilled my commitment in BC because the sole purpose of me going to school now will be later deducing my school year in Western, so I wanna make sure the chances for their acceptance will be good. And also, will getting a PPL help me thru my school years as in terms of getting exempted for flying courses?

Hoping will find some insight from the previous grad students or people who have similar experience. Thank you very much!

I'm a grad from the CAM program at Western, and now working around your neck of the woods. I can't speak about the academic side of things. Your best bet is to talk to the BMOS Registrar's Office, the person in charge use to be Barbara Thomas.

As for the flying side. Getting a PPL and then getting into an iCPL program will not reduce much of your training time. And further to that, your training time can only be counted 1/2 towards the training syllabus that the school has. The integrated CPL program is unlike any other CPL program. It is very structured and does not leave you with much room for doing your own thing on the side.

My two cents. Feel free to pm.

[4Stroke]

jncrw....check your PMs

[Colonel Sanders]

I know I was dropped on my head as a small
child, but I don't understand why anyone wanting
to be a pilot would study for and get a degree in
"Aviation Management".

Every working pilot I've ever met has hated his
management to some degree. Some quite
violently.

A pilot getting a degree in aviation management
is like a priest getting a degree in Satanic Rituals.

I don't get it.

You want to fly an airplane, why not learn to fly
an airplane? Too simple and inexpensive for you?

[Shiny Side Up]

I don't understand why anyone wanting
to be a pilot would study for and get a degree in
"Aviation Management".

Very simple, managing pilots often pays better than being a pilot. As with many positions of management though, the rise in pay is not consumate with the rise in responsibility, so its not a desireable position. That said though, you certainly don't need a degree in aviation management to get into a position of managing pilots, you usually just have to be stupid enough to say "sure I'll fill that position in the company" and "yes I can be listed as chief {insert honorific here}"

It should also be known that aviation managing is probably one of the least desirable jobs out there. Chief Fryolator Operator probably commands more respect and cooperation. It also has a greater raise in pay than Chief Pilot does. Pilots are harder on equipment than rig pigs, complain more than farmers, and want more time off than government employees.

Did we mention that if you manage pilots you don't get to fly as much as said pilots?

[jncrw]

I know I was dropped on my head as a small
child, but I don't understand why anyone wanting
to be a pilot would study for and get a degree in
"Aviation Management".

See here is the thing, i went to school for tourism travel and flight services without thinking too much into it, and now i don't have anything to fall back on except a diploma and a few years of working experience. I have always been interested in the operation side of the airline industry as i do in flying, so I just thought it would be beneficial in a long run when i want to do less flying, but not necessary managing pilots. As i am typing, i just remember that this conversation i had with one of the GMs from IFS while i was working at CX, I told her that i wanted to quit my job and go back to school then come back for a different position, she told me not to take anything too specific as it limits your versatility. what do you guys think?

[Leafers77]

I wouldn't worry too much about what people say about having a university degree in aviation. Do it because you want a degree... Its not just about having a fancier resume. You will be doing it for the experience. I am a CAM grad, and I feel there is a misconception about the degree on avcanada a bit.. It is first and foremost a business degree (Bachelors of Management and Organizational Studies aka BMOS). You will take about 75% of the same courses as the other streams (finance, consumer behaviour, HR, etc.).. essentially setting you up for any role in business (if I had taken a couple different courses I could have all credits needed for a CA/CGA/CMA.. accounting just wasn't for me). The commercial aviation management stream simply puts more focus on the aviation industry. Frankly, I enjoyed this because I'd much rather talk about the aviation industry and how it works opposed to how to properly record the sale of options or warrants. If you want to go to university, you should be doing it for the experience, friends, and the way it teaches you to think (as a person, not just a pilot or accountant or whatnot).

That being said, looking back I may have done it differently. I would still have gone to university 100%. I may have just explored more of the options regarding obtaining the licenses. Do some research and searches on here to find out what suits you best.. the CAM program is a rather expensive flight training curriculum (take the money it costs and compare it to other options for the same $$ value). I loved London and flying around southern ontario, especially flying over my buddies places in various cities (Guelph, St Catherines, Waterloo, N Bay, etc.).

My advice if you want a degree and the licenses would be to move to an aviation city (Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Calgary, anywhere with a bunch of companies), and start part time somewhere while youre studying away (school and flight). Might be difficult but so is the CAM program (esp when you fit in all the partying time, London is a rowdy city). Who knows, you could be up for flight line as soon as you finish your licenses. PM me if you have other questions about the program and good luck on the decision.

[kmf.kenif]

I wouldn't worry too much about what people say about having a university degree in aviation. Do it because you want a degree... Its not just about having a fancier resume. You will be doing it for the experience. I am a CAM grad, and I feel there is a misconception about the degree on avcanada a bit.. It is first and foremost a business degree (Bachelors of Management and Organizational Studies aka BMOS). You will take about 75% of the same courses as the other streams (finance, consumer behaviour, HR, etc.).. essentially setting you up for any role in business (if I had taken a couple different courses I could have all credits needed for a CA/CGA/CMA.. accounting just wasn't for me). The commercial aviation management stream simply puts more focus on the aviation industry. Frankly, I enjoyed this because I'd much rather talk about the aviation industry and how it works opposed to how to properly record the sale of options or warrants. If you want to go to university, you should be doing it for the experience, friends, and the way it teaches you to think (as a person, not just a pilot or accountant or whatnot).

That being said, looking back I may have done it differently. I would still have gone to university 100%. I may have just explored more of the options regarding obtaining the licenses. Do some research and searches on here to find out what suits you best.. the CAM program is a rather expensive flight training curriculum (take the money it costs and compare it to other options for the same $$ value). I loved London and flying around southern ontario, especially flying over my buddies places in various cities (Guelph, St Catherines, Waterloo, N Bay, etc.).

My advice if you want a degree and the licenses would be to move to an aviation city (Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Calgary, anywhere with a bunch of companies), and start part time somewhere while youre studying away (school and flight). Might be difficult but so is the CAM program (esp when you fit in all the partying time, London is a rowdy city). Who knows, you could be up for flight line as soon as you finish your licenses. PM me if you have other questions about the program and good luck on the decision.

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