the race

[crazy_aviator]

Details and Qualifications: College Diploma or completed Apprenticeship, a valid Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (AME) license, and at least 5 year of work experience in the agricultural aircraft field.
Job Description: This is a full-time position. Ag aircraft maintenance and Thrush airframe experience is a must. Proven experience is necessary in dealing with PT6, Walter M601, and GE H80 engines; fabric aircraft repair, fiberglass work and aircraft painting skills; installing, supporting, and repairing all models of Satloc GPS systems.

Salary: $23.63/hour as per qualifications

Recent job ad in avcanada ,,,,,,
The race to the bottom is happening in maintenance also !!
In MOST other industries, you would need to hire 5 people for all the disciplines,,,,, NOT in aviation,,, you can do all 5 for the same low wage !!!

[black hole]

shameful isn't it

BH

[Choppermech1986]

+1

An extra $10 per hour would be a much fairer offer. I wonder what the shop rate is?

[cdnpilot77]

Not to mention a spelling mistake in the contact information.

mailto:cheryl@yokrtonaircraft.com

You know someone will take it and justify it with "Well, if I dont take it, someone else will. So I might as well just take the work"

[fixnfly]

Thats pretty sad. I doubt they will find an AME willing to move out there for that much. Im sure they will hire a couple apprentices instead.

[flatface]

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[CamAero]

That is an absurd offer. Good grief.

I was making more than that as an apprentice 10 years ago.

Double it and now we're talkin'..

[Pat Richard]

You guys are all complainers. That is a just above canadian poverty wage and perfectly good wage for a 2 year diploma education. You are all just greedy and not loving aviation.





My neverblue impersonation.




They're probably thinking that they're matching westjet..which they are.

[black hole]

Hey: I know a few guys I could send them!!

BH

[torquey401]

Sad. I wonder what the turnover is there?

[Heliian]

It's a base salary of about 50,000 a year. That's still well above the poverty line. But since everybody is making 100000 a year these days i guess it's low.

[Troubleshot]

It's a base salary of about 50,000 a year. That's still well above the poverty line. But since everybody is making 100000 a year these days i guess it's low.

Heliian,

Actually it is $49150/Year...and you are missing the point completely. If we were talking about a cashier from Wal-Mart you would have an argument but we are talking about a specialized worker with college diploma. Not only does Yorkton want a licenced AME for $49K a year, according to the ad they want a very experienced AME with a broad range of skills for $49K/Yr.

I just love people who defend wages like this...I am going to go out on a limb and say guys like Heliian are the reason pilots/AMEs work for free sometimes in this industry. Honestly man if you are defending this you deserve what you get out of life. I mean, are we actually using the poverty line as the bench mark in aviation now? This is getting laughable...

Race to the bottom?...ask Heliian, he'll set you straight...

[azimuthaviation]

You would be better off working on the tractors:

Farm equipment technician (Agricultural Equipment Technician)

Terms of Employment: Permanent, Full Time, Overtime, Day

Salary: $25.00 to $28.00 Hourly for 40 hours per week, Bonus, Other Benefits, Medical Benefits, Dental Benefits, Disability Benefits, Life Insurance Benefits, Group Insurance Benefits, RRSP Benefits

http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/detail-eng.asp ... =No&PgNum=

Heavy-duty equipment mechanic (Excavators, HD Trucks, Trailers)

Terms of Employment: Permanent, Full Time, Day

Salary: $33.00 to $40.00 Hourly for 40 hours per week, Medical Benefits, Dental Benefits, Life Insurance Benefits

http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/detail-eng.asp ... =No&PgNum=

[Troubleshot]

And before it happens...

This is not a debate on whether or not you like your job in aviation...so don't even go there. This is about the compensation standard in aviation that is not growing with the rest of the world.

The only way this is going to change is people just flat-out refuse to work in aviation. Then the demand increases and the wages follow. This will most definitely happen at some point considering I am still seeing $23/HR for a licenced engineer at multiple AMO's. The only wrench that could get thrown into that theory is outsourcing maintenance to other (cheaper) countries...starting to see it already.

[NeverBlue]

My neverblue impersonation.

...well you're not very good at it...I would never spell Canadian with a small C.

And quit putting words in my mouth, I never made any comment about this job posting.

I would agree...for the experience they're asking for...it's not a good wage...but well above poverty.

...keep goading

[crazy_aviator]

Looking at the job listing

fabric aircraft repair, fiberglass work and aircraft painting skills; installing, supporting, and repairing all models of Satloc GPS systems.

I would imagine the employer wants electrical exp, sheet metal exp, etc. Neither the tractor nor the heavy equipment mechanic needs to have all those abilities !!! That job should be around 30 min 40 ish max.

[GyvAir]

I tend to agree with flatface. My first impression was that the ad reads like they already know the name of the person they're going to hire. Either that, or they're dreaming that they're going to find the carbon copy of the guy that recently retired or got fed up and quit.

[GyvAir]

Anybody else browse around in their website?

http://www.yorktonaircraft.com/features.asp

[bring me the horizon]

An AME was removing a cylinder head from the engine of a Thrush S2R when he spotted the local, well-known heart surgeon (also a flyer) arrive at the airport.

While the surgeon was waiting for his aircraft to be pulled out of the hangar the AME shouted across the hangar, "Hey, Doc, can I ask you a question?"

The surgeon a bit surprised, walked over to the AME working on the Thrush. The AME straightened up, wiped his hands on a rag and asked, "So Doc, look at this engine. I open its heart, take valves out, fix 'em, put 'em back in, and when I finish, it works just like new. So how come I get such a small salary and you get the really big bucks, when you and I are doing basically the same work?"

The surgeon paused, smiled and leaned over, and whispered to the AME...
"Try doing it with the engine running."

[NeverBlue]

Beautiful

[Troubleshot]

While I don't necessarily disagree with with that "Doc vs AME" quote thing...why put that on your shitty looking website? What are you trying to convey to your customers with that? What do their AME's think of that up there?....you are an AMO taking your workers down a peg on the company website...

Friggin weird place to work I'm sure

[NeverBlue]

...it's completely the same as you posting your crap here.

we're AME's remember?

[Troubleshot]

Oh Neverblue,

I would say 90% of the AME's here agree with me. At least I have experience in multiple industries to back up what I say. You however continue to have your head squarely in the sand.

My last post was to point out the sales aspect of Yorkton's website with their little anecdote. As a potential customer does that portion of their website make me want to do business with them? I can't see the benefit. I wouldn't expect you to understand, it's OK little buddy.

Oh and by the way Neverblue, I am still an AME...I just don't use my license to make a crappy living anymore.

[wrenchturner]

It actually sounds pretty good compared to this one

http://avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=92802

$27.75 for an M2 at Pearson? And I get to work straight nights?? Where do I sign up?

[5x5]

I wonder what the shop rate is?

From their website - "Our shop rate is $82 per hour for regular general aviation maintenance customers. Our commercial clients pay a tad more than this, since their work is often more extensive and demanding. We strive to be as fair as possible to our private flyers."

Wonder if the guys get paid a "tad more than this" when working on commercial aircraft?