Widebody announcement

[skypirate88]

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=901

So, any word on the type?

[Gilles Hudicourt]

I do not know about the first four, but am ready to bet Westjet will go for the 787 for its permanent long haul fleet......

[bythenumbers]

I do not know about the first four, but am ready to bet Westjet will go for the 787 for its permanent long haul fleet......

Rumour is the first 4 will be either 67 or the 330. A lot more newer 330's around. Personally, I'd like to see them strike a deal with Boeing to lease some of their test 787's (which apparently Boeing has kicking around) in the interim before they go ahead and firm up an order for the permanent type, which hopefully will be the 787. Makes most sense in terms of maintenance, training and paper work when they finish their dry lease.

[KAG]

Damn you triple post

[KAG]

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[KAG]

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=901

So, any word on the type?

Big.

Sorry couldn't resist. Next time I go fly im also going to say airspeed when asked.

[cdnpilot77]

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=901

So, any word on the type?

Big.

Sorry couldn't resist. Next time I go fly im also going to say airspeed when asked.

Your joke was so good, you said it 3 times?

Good luck with the new wide bodies, interesting times at WJ.

[Donald]

So what will the wide body airline be called?

[aerobod]

So what will the wide body airline be called?

From the press release:

"WestJet Airlines Ltd. (TSX:WJA) today announced that it is moving forward with plans that would see the airline fly it's own wide-body aircraft as early as fall 2015."

So the answer is "WestJet Airlines Ltd.", commonly known as "WestJet".

[No Quarter]

Encore just got a little tastier I'd say.

Wish I had this opportunity starting out.

[twinpratts]

I heard the type may be announced within a month...

[stickontheice]

Great work by the WJPA!!

[rudder]

So boys (and girls).......is it status pay or will there be two classes of WJ pilots?

[leftoftrack]

So boys (and girls).......is it status pay or will there be two classes of WJ pilots?

There is 2 classes of WJ pilots on that list. Adding a third is almost a given.if they went for status you think they'll include encore in sharing the increased wages

[dukepoint]

So boys (and girls).......is it status pay or will there be two classes of WJ pilots?

Interesting. Canada's two major airlines are becoming more similar every day. Similar issues will likely ensue, followed by the start-up of Canada's newest LCC, soon followed by the merger of Canada's two legacy carriers as they both feel the pain. I didn't expect history to repeat itself so quickly! 737 max's and 787 at both carriers will make the merger absolutely seamless. A quick dusting of Robin's Egg Blue and voila! There's still a bit of catching up to do though, as ACPA has easily five classes of pilot.

The fledgling WJ sheds the last vestiges of it's Southwest shell to become, wait for it, another Air Canada!


DP, pilot fourth class.

[BE20 Driver]

There is 2 classes of WJ pilots on that list.

I was going to say exactly the same thing.

if they went for status you think they'll include encore in sharing the increased wages

Ooohhh...interesting thought. I doubt it. They missed the opportunity to increase WAWCON when the compensation review went through. Seemed that despite low recruiting numbers, they were ok holding onto industry -10% policy. The big question for me is whether they will lowball the wide body salaries and use the same justification - it's an experiment and we need to keep costs in check to remain competitive.

[twinpratts]

The scale is exclusive to the widebody, and is higher than the NG.
No status pay.

[bcflyer]

So there is already a wide body pay scale?

[Lateralus]

So there is already a wide body pay scale?

Yes there is.

[flyer 1492]

The members of the "royal family" will have something new to fly.

Flyer

[Chuck Finley]

So.... 500-10%?

[Mach1]

Damn you triple post

Of course you know I read that in Stewie's voice.

[yycflyguy]

I do not know about the first four, but am ready to bet Westjet will go for the 787 for its permanent long haul fleet......

That would be a long wait. There is a big backlog of airlines waiting delivery.

Boeing 787 orders and deliveries by type
Total orders/ Total deliveries
787-8 486/ 161
787-9 413/ 1
787-10 132/ –
Total 1,031/ 162

On 9 November 2005, Air Canada agreed to renew their widebody fleet by purchasing 16 Boeing 777s (10 -300ERs, 6 -200LRs), and 14 Boeing 787-8s. They placed options on 18 Boeing 777s and 46 Boeing 787-8s and -9s.

Took Air Canada almost 9 years from ordering to receiving. Unless Westjet buys someone else's slots there would be no 787s on the property until 2023ish.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

That would be a long wait. There is a big backlog of airlines waiting delivery.

Boeing 787 orders and deliveries by type
Total orders/ Total deliveries
787-8 486/ 161
787-9 413/ 1
787-10 132/ –
Total 1,031/ 162

On 9 November 2005, Air Canada agreed to renew their widebody fleet by purchasing 16 Boeing 777s (10 -300ERs, 6 -200LRs), and 14 Boeing 787-8s. They placed options on 18 Boeing 777s and 46 Boeing 787-8s and -9s.

Took Air Canada almost 9 years from ordering to receiving. Unless Westjet buys someone else's slots there would be no 787s on the property until 2023ish.

ALAFCO, ALC, Aviation Capital Group, CIT, GECAS, ILFC, all aircraft leasing companies, have a combined order sheet of 152 B787s.

They are not buying B787s to park them. Do you know who their customers are ?

[brooks]

ALAFCO, ALC, Aviation Capital Group, CIT, GECAS, ILFC, all aircraft leasing companies, have a combined order sheet of 152 B787s.

They are not buying B787s to park them. Do you know who their customers are ?

Don't forget the orders from undisclosed buyers...