How is First Air doing these days?

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:59 am

With all the majors hiring, how's life at our northern carriers these days?
Are they too losing to AC or is it status quo - no hiring.
If they are hiring, whats the upgrade time like? Sched? and so on.

Cheers

BlueStar · Post by **BlueStar** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:39 pm

Well so far status quo. And time for uprgrade, 8 yrs and counting, so who knows.

Cheers,

aphid · Post by **aphid** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:33 am

Out of curiosity where do you start at First Air now?

Is it still in the back of the 27 or can you start in the right seat of the ATR or Hawker?

And when you say 8 years to upgrade are you talking from sideways to the right seat or right to left.

Thanks in advance.

Jet Dog · Post by **Jet Dog** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:23 pm

last I heard they got rid of the 27's except one?? anyone confirm this?... you now start out as SO on the ford tri motor

BlueStar · Post by **BlueStar** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:26 pm

We still have 4 27's, last group that got hired was for the SO seat. But there would be the opportunity in the future to get right seat ATR in YZF, dont know when though.

B757FO · Post by **B757FO** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:06 pm

Allot of rumours going around about expansion for First Air but who knows. Within a year the 727s will be parked and 737s taking the place in the west and the east. At that point entry level possitions will be ATR42 Iqaluit and Yellownife as FOs possibly the C130 also has done direct entry FO in the past. As with any airline in Canada we are hoping Air Canada picks up some pilots to get movement happening again. Very stagnant for the last 4 years. I have 10 years in and still no left seat. Hopefully this will change.

Great company to work for home every night.

B737FO

yxy · Post by **yxy** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:08 pm

Stuff will happen when the Canada Post contract is awarded I'm sure. I just heard that AC put a bid to move the foodmail

How are they going to adjust to flying in the north??

Kosiw · Post by **Kosiw** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:18 pm

It'll be feast or famine for First Air depending on whether they get awarded the foodmail contract yet again this fall, rumours of wide body freighters if they do get the contract, or cutbacks if they don't.....

yxy · Post by **yxy** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:50 pm

The 767 that First Air was going to buy from AC is on hold............The reason I heard is that AC won't sell it to 7F if it will help them keep the foodmail contract. 5T and arctic sunwest have also submitted a partnership bid for the Canada Post contract.

Also heard that two "new" 737's were booked for their C check soon. (for 7F)

B757FO · Post by **B757FO** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:57 pm

The deal we here about is for 3 737s and 1 767 as a package deal for food mail if we get it back. 2 737s will be going to YOW regardless of the the foodmail to replace the 727-100s. Fuel savings is approx. 3500lbs per hour so I have been told. We shall see. However without the food mail they will probably drop some crew from.

Its all rumours till their sitting on the ramp. Till then the dark season is comming fast.

B737FO

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:11 pm

Thought I heard Canadian North is also bidding on that contract.

B757FO · Post by **B757FO** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:45 am

I have heard of about 5 airlines who bid it including ACE and Cargojet Canadian North Air Canada and First Air for the jet routes. It is always up in the air these things. We shall see. We heard at the end of August early Septemeber it will be awarded.

First Air aparently has bought these 2-3 737s and they will be online this fall so says the memo. No 767 on the ramp yet.

What is the range of the 767-200ER? Anyone have any info on this? I heard that was AC machine to go YYZ to Tel Aviv direct is this true that must have been 11+ hours?

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:06 am

The range depends on the powerplants. The max is 6670nm. I know Skyservice is getting one for their new Moscow run.

http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=103

Double Wasp · Post by **Double Wasp** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:38 pm

Well it is now the beginning of Sept. Any word on who got the Food Mail Contracts?

Arctic Icarus · Post by **Arctic Icarus** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:56 pm

Nothing yet. I've heard it will be a few more months yet before anyone hears.

They do have a new website up and running now. Much better than the old one.

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:36 pm

It's now down to Canadian North and First Air. I heard Canadian North is bidding with a 737. Don't know what First Air is bidding with.

yxy · Post by **yxy** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:28 pm

DA900 wrote:It's now down to Canadian North and First Air. I heard Canadian North is bidding with a 737. Don't know what First Air is bidding with.

Source?

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:52 pm

I will just say a liitle bird told me... but it is as good as it gets.

Kosiw · Post by **Kosiw** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:41 am

If CDN North does win the Food Mail contract, what will they use for aircraft other than the B737's and F28? I am aware that First Air is looking at more B737's and widebody freighters, would CDN North go for a widebody freighter? Wonder if Borek (who is partnered with them) would get larger aircraft as well?

Will be interesting to see what comes about once the contract is awarded.

yxy · Post by **yxy** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:46 pm

Canada Post has said that they want a widebody and I can't see 5T picking one up.

I think 7F will end up with the contract regardless, maybe not all but the majority. They are just making sure that they (7F) are being honest.

Kosiw · Post by **Kosiw** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:15 pm

Any news on the awarding of the foodmail contract yet?

yxy · Post by **yxy** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:07 pm

Heard by the end of the year..........

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:54 pm

I heard that the foodmail contract should be awarded this Friday the 28th.

TTJJ · Post by **TTJJ** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:18 pm

B737FO, what would be the salary for a 737 captain with them?
thanks

Double Wasp · Post by **Double Wasp** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:02 pm

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