Jazz Q400 Right main landing gear collapse YEG

[Axial Flow]

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Looks like right main collapsed.

http://t.co/OhIeFf8rau

[fish4life]

Any idea if this was an older q400 because if I remember right SAS had a bad string of these a few years back

[Cod Father]

From CBC:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.2827068

[leftoftrack]

The 6 blades tells you it's a q

So does jazz try and lease a parked UEX Q now or fix this and be short for a month

[GyvAir]

The CBC coverage states that they knew they had a blown tire prior to landing in Edmonton. Sounds like they were bound for Grande Prairie but landed in Edmonton because of the known tire failure.
If memory serves, the SAS failures were ultimately attributed to SAS maintenance using an incorrect grease on the landing gear, leading to corrosion and failure of a pin or bolt.

[Wacko]

The 6 blades tells you it's a q

Thanks for the contribution here... as the topic clearly stated so.

[bizjets101]

Q400 C-GGBF msn 4433 delivered March 2013

[ditar]

Another angle

[Axial Flow]

Picture showing prop through cabin courtesy of the TSB.

[FenderManDan]

How did that prop blade got there?

[Axial Flow]

Jesus Cletus it done broke off when the engine was running and hit the ground !

[Axial Flow]

Another close up picture of the prop going into the cabin....my paranoia of sitting in this area is confirmed.

[PositiveRate27]

We called the jump seat "the hamburger seat" in the metro... I'm shlocked that can happen on a Q400

[tallyho]

Props (hehe) to the crew for getting safely stopped with no serious injuries.

[RatherBeFlying]

I suspect the TSB will be investigating whether the prop over the bad tire should have been feathered before landing.

That said the gear usually does not collapse when the tires blow -- we will be hearing from TSB on that.

Actually the prop did not have much energy. A DC-6 prop went through the cabin and took out the opposite engine, hydraulics and other stuff.

[EPR]

Mental note..never sit in seat 8 or 9 Alpha!
Glad everyone walked away.

[HeadingAltitudeSpeed]

Just a question out of curiosity.

It appears that the aircraft touched down with the right main in the grass (intentionally?). There doesn't seem to be skid marks or violent yawing towards the edge of the runway. Is this normal procedure for this type of event?

I've always been taught that in a gear up situation that the runway is less damaging than the grass. If there was no tire, it would seem that the hard runway surface would provide a better rolling surface than soft irregular turf. Not trying to second guess but curious if a hard surface landing would have reduced the risk of collapsing gear?

[PilotDAR]

I would wonder if using an opposite direction prop on the right engine would be a good idea. The blade bits would be thrown outward, instead of inward. If I recall, the SAS gear collapse was the left gear, so perhaps broken prop did not get thrown toward the fuselage.

[PositiveRate27]

From now on I'm sitting as far aft or far forward as possible

[ehbuddy]

a few more..........

[magic wand]

Was there variable tailwinds on final? Must have been a fair amount of drag to pull him/her into the ditch.

[RatherBeFlying]

The pics show that drag from the gear took them off the runway. Once in the grass a gear leg with no tire will likely dig in and collapse.

There is the odd checklist out there with recommendations to move pax seated opposite the props.

[Commonwealth]

I recall that after the SAS accidents, Bombardier issued some guidance about landing with one gear leg not extended. It was not an AD and it made reference to the issue of passengers sitting in the rows adjacent to the propellers. From the news reports and the cell phone video of the landing, I deduce that the gear collapse was a surprise to everyone.

I can see some heavy duty protective panels being installed on the fuselage in order to prevent the blades from penetrating the aircraft skin.

[Jack Klumpus]

It's been a few years since I left the Q. I think seat 7 was the worst. Either from the blade or if the NVS system wasn't working (noise killer).

[GyvAir]

The photo resolution isn't quite good enough to be sure, but it looks to me like that RH nacelle and wing tip were both dragging before the aircraft left the pavement.

Happened to find this video of one of the SAS gear collapses (the one Commonwealth mentions above?) while browsing for info on the current one.