CPL requirements - hours for flight test in CAN

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CPL requirements - hours for flight test in CAN

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Soon I will be 200 hrs, I have 180 HRS total, 100 PIC, ICAO PPL license was issued at 120 hours (hehe, went to real TopGun school, !@#$), do I still need completed 65 hours of commercial course? (All logged hours after I got PPL license were PIC)

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For the licence, you need 200TT, 100 PIC, 65 Post PPL, 35 of which has to be dual, 30 solo, 20 instrument, 10 of which can be done in a sim
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These 35 dual, they should be done with FI with which ratings, or under ATO ?
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The 35 dual need to be with a Flight Instructor.

Your title says "... hours for flight test" which you can actually do now as you've got over the required 150. Of course, you need a recommendation from an instructor. But say, he or she is happy with your flying say after just 5 hours or so and writes you a recommend, you can then go ahead and do the flight test before you even hit 200 hours if you choose to do so.

You can also write the CPAER now if you've not done already.
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Sticknrudder

I would suggest you review CAR standard 421
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Which you can find here, in case you are wondering: https://tc.canada.ca/en/corporate-servi ... sor-96-433
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Pilotdaddy wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:48 pm The 35 dual need to be with a Flight Instructor.

Your title says "... hours for flight test" which you can actually do now as you've got over the required 150. Of course, you need a recommendation from an instructor. But say, he or she is happy with your flying say after just 5 hours or so and writes you a recommend, you can then go ahead and do the flight test before you even hit 200 hours if you choose to do so.

You can also write the CPAER now if you've not done already.
But sir, I need these 35 dual hrs done after my PPL?
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strickenrudder wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:45 am
Pilotdaddy wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:48 pm The 35 dual need to be with a Flight Instructor.

Your title says "... hours for flight test" which you can actually do now as you've got over the required 150. Of course, you need a recommendation from an instructor. But say, he or she is happy with your flying say after just 5 hours or so and writes you a recommend, you can then go ahead and do the flight test before you even hit 200 hours if you choose to do so.

You can also write the CPAER now if you've not done already.
But sir, I need these 35 dual hrs done after my PPL?
It might be a bit daunting, but I highly recommend you read the standard Big Pistons Forever mentioned.

All your questions will be answered on this link: https://tc.canada.ca/en/corporate-servi ... tions-cars

Division VII, 421.30, section 4 on that page is what you need.
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If you want to be a professional pilot, which is why I assume the OP wants a CPL, I think it reasonable that they be familiar with the regulations covering their profession. It is pretty obvious that the CAR’s are not very clear, contain ambiguities, and sometime contradictory direction, but that doesn’t mean you should not make an effort to familiarize yourself with them, especially those regulations and standard that define the privileges and prerequisites of the license you are pursuing......
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Thank you all for positive and constructive input. Bear with me, I am not native English speaker and when I read this:

"following the issuance of a private pilot licence — aeroplane by Canada or another contracting state, have completed 65 hours of commercial pilot flight training in aeroplanes consisting of a minimum of:
(amended 2006/12/14) "

I understand this that I need these 65 hours completed after I got my PPL license and have to specifically go to commercial flight pilot training to acquire these :)
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But sir, I need these 35 dual hrs done after my PPL?
Yes, you need 35 hours dual, after your PPL. Another reply said that an instructor can give you a letter for your flight test after just 5 hours, no they can't, you need 35 hours dual specifically for the CPL.
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Skymark wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:50 am
But sir, I need these 35 dual hrs done after my PPL?
Yes, you need 35 hours dual, after your PPL. Another reply said that an instructor can give you a letter for your flight test after just 5 hours, no they can't, you need 35 hours dual specifically for the CPL.

I got my recommend for the flight test before hitting 35 hours, shortly after hitting the 150 TT needed for the flight test.
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An instructor could recommend you with less than 35 hours of dual CPL training. You will not be able to have your licence signed off until you achieve 35 hours of dual training. Mind you there are some sub clauses in CAR 421.30 that you’ll read about in that 35 hours as well. For example, the FTU I work at just had a guy with 210 hours looking to get his CPL signed off, he needed another 1.4 hrs dual XC before he was able to have the licence signed off.
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Most FTU’s will have you done that 65/35 hours at the point of CPL flight test though. Did you go from 120 to 180 hours outside of an FTU environment?
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