Instructor hours per province

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Instructor hours per province

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What are the hours per year an instructor can do in different provinces?

I just want a rough idea,but if you speak from actual experience that would be even better.

I dont mind hard work and long hours too!

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here in bc, at my flight school, flight instructors are getting around 600hrs a year (ballpark range and correct me if im wrong)
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Post by trancemania »

Thanks canuckflyer

I guess no-one wants to talk about it because they are all depressed about the amount of hours.
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Alberta- 800-1200 hours per year, 7 days a week, 14 hour days (at the school).

Very easy to hit 100 hours a month even just working 6 days a week.
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aero220 wrote:Alberta- 800-1200 hours per year, 7 days a week, 14 hour days (at the school).

Very easy to hit 100 hours a month even just working 6 days a week.
What school is this.
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Springbank Air Training College has a international student program (mainly from India) that requires students to be trained from never flying before to commercial, Multi-Instrument rated pilots in 6 months. They say that they are short 3 instructors, maybe even 4, so everyone there works alot to keep up with the commitment of training the international students. I would estimate they hit well over 100 hour a month. One of their instructors hit 120 last month!

The Calgary Flying club is short a few instructors as well and is crazy busy. They are booked up well over a month in advance(some instructors even 2-3 months in advance) . The high hour potential is there as well, if they will let instructors fly that much. I think they may not allow their instructors to work the typical 17 hour instructor days, but I would still say that you could hit at least 1000 hour a year there.

It has been a while since I was at a school in YYC but I would think that they are experiencing the same overload of people trying to get their pilots license. I think that it is crazy any school in Alberta.

Most of the instructors who work at Mount Royal college are able to obtain their ATPL within a year of instructing there so I would assume that they are logging over 1000 hours a year as well.
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I did about 800hrs in 10months in Manitoba.... there aren't too many schools out there
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I think a more realistic number that you can bank on working 5 days a week would be around 50-65. At least this is here in BC. You have to factor in that in the summer you can get 80-90 but in the winter you might average 30-40. Flight instructors need to sleep too. Try to work at a school that gives days off. I guarantee you'll be way better at your job if you actually sleep and rest. They have duty days in airline flying for a reason. Just because those rules don't apply too us doesn't mean we're excused from the responsibility of getting our needed rest. There comes a point where Coffee doesn't do it anymore :wink:

Flight Instructors of any class are in high demand right now. It is now possible to shop around for jobs. You can't have mine though, it's too good to give up.
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7 days a week, 14 hour days
Can you say "burnout"? I knew you could.

Gotta feel sorry for their students.
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Post by Sasky »

I dont think it has anything to do with the province, it depends on what center you are in and what kind of pool you are pulling from, how many schools in the area, weather trends for the region etc.

7 days a week as an instructor should be illegal. it doesnt take long to get burnt out as an instructor. At the point of burning out, you are completely useless, to your student as well as being a safety hazard as well.

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Post by Hedley »

It has always struck me as exceedingly odd that 406/426 (FTU OC) has absolutely no flight/duty time limitations. Nada. None.

Coming from an enthusiastic libertarian such as myself, you may find it surprising that I would honestly support a simple, easy to understand addition such as:

1) maximum 5 days flying out of last 7 days
2) maximum 20 hours of dual given in last 7 days

So, every instructer would get 2 days off every week, and in those 5 days working, he could instruct a maximum of 20 hours. 20 hours over 5 days is 4 hours flight instruction per day. Any 1.0 flight instruction lesson should have another hour of pre-flight and post-flight, etc so that's an 8 hour work day.

There are 52 weeks in a year, so that's still 52 x 20 = 1040 hours per year of flight instruction given. That's really not all that unreasonable.

I know, I'm dreaming. Instructors are paid pennies so they have to cram hours and move on before they go broke, because they lose money on every hour that they fly.
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Post by x-wind »

Could do as many as I want in central Alberta.... Id rather shoot myself than do another 100hr month.


...23 bucks an hour.
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Post by Cat Driver »

How many flight hours one can teach without burn out is very difficult to determine.

For sure four flight hours per day would be about maximum.

The more hours an instructor flys the less effective they become at teaching their students.

The only answer is quality pay for quality instruction.....then it takes less hours to bring the student up to the required standard.

The very minimum hourly rate an instructor should be paid is $50.00 per flight hour.

A top notch flight instructor should charge $100.00 per flight hour.
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Post by x-wind »

Cat Drive,

First, I concur with your last comment.

I am wonder what your thoughts on the Flt. Instructor Guide are. Is it time for a change? Or does it suffice as a good supplement to a qualified aviator and good teacher?
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Post by Chuck Ellsworth »

I have not looked at it for years.

But the laws of learning or what ever they call them are goofy....that part should be changed.
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