French vs English

[whoop whoop pull up]

KAG wrote:
I wouldnt say were jealous because we get all your hot women anyways. I must admit I love talking to montreal center when they have those cute sounding controllers working.

Haha not all of them! Speaking of cute controllers...Nicole at YUL approach

[SQ]

some english pilot at jazz make an effort to speak french. you don't need a grade 24 to ask for a clearance, flight plan and boarding to begin.
French words for aviation are not very complicated and would ask you 1 hour of work each week + some pronounciation exercices while flying. at the end you'll find it funny and even entertaining between 2 ils.
controlers are bilingual, unless you're flying in uncontroled airspace it shouldn't scary you more than that.
but don't forget that for some pilots, flying in french is a safety matter too.
for you, and the others...

[W5]

French is one of the two official ICAO languages of aviation.

Actually, there are more (6):

http://www.icao.int/fsix/lp.cfm

[FOwithBO]

Yes, you do have HOT dames running around Quebec. But everyone I talk to is getting divorced from one. Whoop Whoop, pull out!

[FOwithBO]

Learn French huh? Thats been attempted in the public school system for a 100 years, it doesnt work. Not all schools are French Immersion. And I dont feel like buying a Rosseta Stone crash course just to make Quebec pilots/atc happy. Why dont you guys LEARN to obey ICAO law and talk English when your flying?!? Or just separate with Canada, and I'll rake in foriegn perdiems when I fly there and not have to worry about ballsless, unpatriotic Canadian citizens anymore.
Peace baby.

You should learn French to make yourself happy! We do not care about you only being able to speak one language.

We obey the law, we are allowed to fly and speak French .

Im totally happy flicking my tongue in chicks mouths, you know French talking.

[North Shore]

September '06, I took a mainline flight from YYZ to YVR. About half of the seats were taken up by a Japanese tour group. Yet the "safety" briefings were in French and English. What a waste of time for the Japanese - two safety briefings in languages they are unlikely to understand, while the chances are that most francophones on that route would probably speak English. I wonder about AC from YVR to NRT - do they get to listen to french too??

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[CD]

I wonder about AC from YVR to NRT - do they get to listen to french too??

Two reasons why that answer to that would be "Oui":

705.43 - Briefing of Passengers
Air Canada Public Participation Act

[Hedley]

After having perused this thread, I have decided
that in a demonstration of my politically-correct
rights as a multi-cultural Canadian, during the
month of March I am only going to speak Swahili
on the radio. The rest of you had better learn
to speak Swahili if you're going to have a clue
what I am doing.

Then, for the delightful month of April, as a
demonstration of my politically-correct rights
as a multi-cultural Canadian, I am only going
to speak Mandarin on the radio. The rest of
you had better learn to speak Mandarin if you're
going to have a clue what I am doing.

Then, for the wonderful month of May, as a
demonstration of my politically-correct rights
as a multi-cultural Canadian, I am only going
to speak Russian on the radio. The rest of
you had better learn to speak Russian if you're
going to have a clue what I am doing.

Then, for the warm month of June, as a
demonstration of my politically-correct rights
as a multi-cultural Canadian, I am only going
to speak Portugese on the radio. The rest of
you had better learn to speak Portugese if you're
going to have a clue what I am doing.

Then, for the summer month of July, as a
demonstration of my politically-correct rights
as a multi-cultural Canadian, I am only going
to speak Hungarian on the radio. The rest of
you had better learn to speak Hungarian if you're
going to have a clue what I am doing.

Isn't Canada a wonderful country? Don't you
all feel as personally empowered as I do, by
our politically-correct multiculturalism?

[SQ]

you forgot inuit .... aren't they canadian ?

[CD]

That would be Inuktitut you're thinking of...

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SQ wrote:

you forgot inuit .... aren't they canadian ?

lol, come on now SQ thats politically incorrect.

[Dust Devil]

Quebec isn't a country but we are a different culture.

So is every other province.

[whoop whoop pull up]

Quebec isn't a country but we are a different culture.

So is every other province.

Except Ontario

[timbob]

Stop all non English speaking crews @ the border...
You pick the border...

[twnotter]

OH great!!!!!!!!!!

Something else for you pilots to whine about!!!!

[SQ]

Quebec isn't a country but we are a different culture.

So is every other province.

nop... ontario has no culture, just a big airport.

[SQ]

That would be Inuktitut you're thinking of...

thanks , Iwas not sure about that. we never heard about them, that's why.

[Human Factor]

Since more Canadians now speak dialects of Chinese than French, perhaps our language laws need to be updated... In Toronto alone, French has slipped to the 29th most spoken language. 29th!!!

And to answer the first post as to why English signs are outlawed in Quebec (and to stir the melting pot a little), you have to understand that even with Canada being officially bilingual, only one province is: New Brunswick. The rest are not, including Ontario. The problem is that the Provincial legislation takes precedent over Federal and therefore you get legal unilinguality with in the borders of the bilingual country. It's an insane practice and we have that bastard Trudeau to thank. He singlehandedly stuck the knife in the back of National Unity and Canada has yet to recover... it probably never will until all of the hot French women marry and reproduce with English men and the French language fades away through attrition. Of course, before that happens China will have invaded and both English and French will have been abolished under strict Communist rule. It's been predicted that this will come by 2013... start boning up on your Mandarin and Cantonese people!

[C-GGGQ]

hell what do you think the chinese students are? They bring in hundreds of them a year. They are the initial invasion force

[Buzz Lightyear]

French is my native language and although I do speak French on the radio when I fly in Québec, I totally understand the issue that non French speakers may have with that. Funny thing is that all my training was done in English out of St-Hubert.

We surely take pride in our language, it's the essence of our culture but just picture yourself on a taxiway in China, with Chinese speaking aircraft all around...not being able to understand a thing they say is not a pleasant thing.

I wouldn't mind at all speaking English on the job, I speak French at home and when I go out with friends. We should be proud to be able to express ourselves in another language when others sometimes can't because they may never had the opportunity to learn.

As far as what happened in Jazz's cockpits I find it pathetic and unprofessional. It's always nice to see an anglophone make efforts to speak French but you can't blame someone who doesn't. It's just sad not to be able to speak more than one language.

My philosophy (that I've learnt through travelling around the world) is to be open-minded and always try to adapt myself the best I can to wherever I am or whoever I'm with, it's not always easy but it's well worth the try.

Happy Flying to all / Bons vols à tous

[Gurundu the Rat]

I think it would be a huge safety issue NOT to allow french to be spoken in quebec airspace. Jean-Guy private pilot will just turn his transponder off and say Tabarnak! Mange d'la marde esti d'ATC! How safe will you feel now with a bunch of targets invisible to your TCAS around you just because they can no longer communicate with ATC. I think I'll stick with the status quo. It's not really unsafe now that everyone has TCAS and transponders, even if ATC screws up. This is more about Unilingual english speaking "we're the official language of aviation" BS. Get over yourselves and your high horses.

[Human Factor]

IThis is more about Unilingual english speaking "we're the official language of aviation" BS. Get over yourselves and your high horses.

But it's not B.S., English is the global industry standard.

[rd1331]

People do you really have any clue....

French being spoken in the air is dangerous.

They do speak english on the radio in central and south america, and by the way, also in the cockpit. These are countries that have nothing to do with english, they are strickly other languages. But there pilots speak ENGLISH. So get over it and start speaking english.

I was just in Cuba and took a flight, Guess what.....THEY SPOKE ENGLISH on the radio and also in the cockpit. All there checks where in english. When I flew in central america I used to jump seat on lots of different flights. THEY SPOKE ENGLISH in the cockpit, and I was fluent in spanish at the time, I asked them if that was just for me. They said No, that they do it because it is safer and keeps there english up for speaking on the radio. There takeoff breifings, In English. There checks, In English.

So yes, you speaking french in quebec......sorry not french, quebec french since its basically pesent french from about 400 years ago and isn't actually french. But its dangerous.....and don't bring up the, in other countries crap....because from someone who has flown in many countries, THEY SPEAK ENGLISH.

[Cat Driver]

For what ever it is worth they speak English in the Kingdom also.