
Cross wind causes media panic.
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Re: Cross wind causes media panic.
BFD, 36G49 That would be a normal December day in St John's. Don't tell me Cowboy Mclusky was the last great Albertan aviator, 

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You don't have to be smart to be a journalist. They are usually the idiots of the University world, making up crap to fit their view. CBC is a borderline tabloid now.
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True! And there'd be no video cause it would be vv100 and rvr1200!!Big Pistons Forever wrote:BFD, 36G49 That would be a normal December day in St John's. Don't tell me Cowboy Mclusky was the last great Albertan aviator,


Re: Cross wind causes media panic.
Unfortunately once this was posted on twitter yesterday the media was all over it. The 149km/h wind reading was taken from the top of the new Bow tower, Calgary's new tallest building. I was watching the live RVR/Wind readings yesterday and there were a few points where the gust was over 50 knots:

CYYC- by RAF-YYC, on Flickr
I think this was before LH came in. It was pretty neat to see ATC start using 25 for arrivals of airliners, can't even remember the last time I saw that happen.

CYYC- by RAF-YYC, on Flickr
I think this was before LH came in. It was pretty neat to see ATC start using 25 for arrivals of airliners, can't even remember the last time I saw that happen.
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Re: Cross wind causes media panic.
Wimps. At YYT that would be just a fair breeze off da tickle, Sar.2011-11-27 20:00 METAR CYYC 272000Z 25036G49KT 20SM FEW160 SCT180 BKN210 13/M04 A2947 RMK AC2AC2CI0 SLP008 =

Re: Cross wind causes media panic.
To come to the defence of the CBC:
Journalists need to familiarize themselves extremely quickly in areas where they have no background in. To the general public, this would look like a crazy landing, with some great footage. That is why they use it.
So please, don't rip on the reporters and journalists. They are just doing their job; same as you.
Besides that, I would have to agree that this was overhyped. To a layman though, this would have been some amazing footage to see, and I think it actually promoted the professionalism and training of pilots. I wouldn't get too worried about this one.
Definitely an interested day at YYC though. Lots of stuff on CADORS. A few overshoots. Heard a few planes giving PIREPS of 60knot winds on short finals.
Journalists need to familiarize themselves extremely quickly in areas where they have no background in. To the general public, this would look like a crazy landing, with some great footage. That is why they use it.
Just to let you know, it's far harder to get into a top Journalism program in University than it is to get into a top aviation management program. Please be more respectful and considerate. It takes hard work, time, and determination to become a journalist; same as a pilot. If you are going to disparage journalists, you might as well do the same to pilots as well.You don't have to be smart to be a journalist. They are usually the idiots of the University world, making up crap to fit their view. CBC is a borderline tabloid now.
So please, don't rip on the reporters and journalists. They are just doing their job; same as you.
Besides that, I would have to agree that this was overhyped. To a layman though, this would have been some amazing footage to see, and I think it actually promoted the professionalism and training of pilots. I wouldn't get too worried about this one.
Definitely an interested day at YYC though. Lots of stuff on CADORS. A few overshoots. Heard a few planes giving PIREPS of 60knot winds on short finals.
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I'm glad I'm not judgmental like all you smug, superficial idiots
Re: Cross wind causes media panic.
sureyycflyguy wrote:Thanks. Perhaps you could enlighten me on how to do it for the future?
http://uswx.com/uswx/text.php?q=08540&stn=cyyc&h=24
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Claresholm had some pretty high winds..!
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METAR CWDK 271800Z AUTO 26046G69KT 13/M05 RMK AO1 PRESFR PK WND 23069/1755
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METAR CWDK 271900Z AUTO 26051G66KT 14/M03 RMK AO1 PK WND 26073/1835 SLP001
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METAR CWDK 272000Z AUTO 25055G70KT 13/M04 RMK AO1 PK WND 25078/1928 SLP007
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Re: Cross wind causes media panic.
Lowjack wrote:Unfortunately once this was posted on twitter yesterday the media was all over it. The 149km/h wind reading was taken from the top of the new Bow tower, Calgary's new tallest building. I was watching the live RVR/Wind readings yesterday and there were a few points where the gust was over 50 knots:
CYYC- by RAF-YYC, on Flickr
I think this was before LH came in. It was pretty neat to see ATC start using 25 for arrivals of airliners, can't even remember the last time I saw that happen.
07/25 has been closed for most of the year due to construction of a new taxiway that runs parallel to 16/34 and "C" taxiway. 25 has been used just as a taxiway. Before it was closed you would see Dash 8s, RJs and 737s, based at the south end, landing on it on a regular basis.
Re: Cross wind causes media panic.
Sure, but there were as many missed approaches in YYC in a half hour as YYT gets planes in an entire day. Matter of perspective, I guess.Siddley Hawker wrote:Wimps. At YYT that would be just a fair breeze off da tickle, Sar.2011-11-27 20:00 METAR CYYC 272000Z 25036G49KT 20SM FEW160 SCT180 BKN210 13/M04 A2947 RMK AC2AC2CI0 SLP008 =


Turn right/left heading XXX, vectors for the hell of it.
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No need to get snarky, I asked a simple question as I had not seen the paper. Thanks for the clarification anyways.yycflyguy wrote:Um, yeah. Thanks. Perhaps they were standing on top of Mt Yamnuska too. Normally planes don't land on top of the Calgary Tower or Mt Yamnuska. Here is the headline of the paper (National Post) I was questioning.kevenv wrote:Did that paper claim they were at the airport? Those winds were reported at the top of the Calgary Tower downtown and were what blew out windows in the office buildings.yycflyguy wrote:Plus the one paper claims that the winds were 149km/hr. Just selling papers on fear.
Sorta implies at the airport dontchathink.Lufthansa flight makes dramatic landing in 149km/h Calgary windstorm
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Media at it again.
This one was worth the report,
This one was worth the report,
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As far as what is a normal x-wind technique for large aircraft, this video of B777 fight test landings is an oldie but goodie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn ... ata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn ... ata_player