Buffalo Joe C46

[loopy]

Just heard a rumour that a Buffalo Airways C46 had an incident in CYZF. Any confirmation to that?

[Johnny#5]

Electra incident?


http://aptn.ca/pages/news/2012/03/06/ho ... s-airline/

[rocks25]

Could it be this incident listed on the CADOR database?

http://bit.ly/QuT5NC

TPJ 198 (operator unknown), was inbound to Iqaluit when the crew reported a flap problem and requested emergency vehicles on standby. They did not declare an emergency and the aircraft landed safely at 1321z.

[frozen solid]

Right hand gear leg collapsed during roll-out on landing. No injuries. Only damage what you would expect. Engine, wingtip.

[Donald]

Right hand gear leg collapsed during roll-out on landing. No injuries. Only damage what you would expect. Engine, wingtip.

Well you know Joe forbids go-arounds for gear issues...

[Colonel Sanders]

I guess no one can fly a Commando as well as you can, The Donald.

Didn't you say that a Rock Star like you always "goes commando"
when you fly a C-46?

[bigsky]

Picture in link..
Built to take a licking..
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/sto ... nding.html

[Taiser]

Yeah they might be old, but they are tough!

[pelmet]

More info on this link....

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... =3&t=47740

[rocks25]

Here is an update from the CADORS report... next question.. how the hell does a hammer end up getting jammed in the gear assembly. Perhaps Buffalo is a bit too busy being movie stars and not keeping track of their tools...

UPDATE: Maintenance and Manufacturing reported that Buffalo Airways local flight BLF509, landed on runway 10 at the Yellowknife airport. Curtiss C-46 C-GTXW, while on roll out, collapsed the right main gear assembly. The aircraft had indicated three green and amber (normal). The cause of the collapse was found to be foreign object intrusion. It was found that a ball peen hammer was lodged between the inboard drag strut and folding member. It is thought that the side load, which the hammer imposed, caused the down lock to slip out before full weight of the aircraft could insert the automatic gear pin. The aircraft was hoisted, the hammer removed and the gear locked in normally. This accident will be investigated through the companies’ SMS system.

[Beefitarian]

I'd wager the guy feels pretty bad about it.

[CFR]

SMS Report

Conclusion

1. Tool control needs improvement.

[Sasquash]

2. Each ball-peen hammer will be fitted with a lanyard and attached at all time to the AME

[Gessle64]

3. Hammer must wear orange safety vest
4. Hammer must have 4 strobe lights for day and 6 for night
5. AME must have a minimum of 200 hours ball peen type before solo hammering. Apprentices are credited half the time up to 100 hours.

[Inverted2]

This is why smart AMEs never engrave their names on their tools!

[FlyGy]

I can't wait to see the next season of Ice pilots.

[Gear Jerker]

6) All ball peen hammers shall be followed on flightaware from the period 10 minutes prior to ETD, and 30 minutes after ETA, by a certified dispatcher.
7) a. 10 solo ball peen hammerings must be conducted within every consecutive 30 day period.
b. If requirement a. has not been fulfilled, candidate must re-write the HPSAUCE ball peen hammer theory exam.

[trey kule]

What a clever bunch of little fellows. This is a serious issue, and Beef...feeling bad does not cut it.
There was a RCAF Red Knight that crashed because a tool got jammed in the elevator on his T33.
Not really all that funny.
The USAF has a mind numbing procedure to avoid this, and some form of it should be implemented in Canada, before our little joke makers are joining an Avcanada cirrcopeek to offer their condolences to someone lost in an accident, instead of learning from one that fortunately only resulted in some bent metal.

[Beefitarian]

You're right to accuse me but I am not kidding this time, and I know him or her feeling bad does not fix it and I understand how it is a serious problem. Fortunately it turned out fairly well this time.

It could have fell on a person, possibly someone important to me even.

[xsbank]

I found a large screwdriver, commonly called a pry-bar, sticking down out of the breather hole in the rudder of another pilot's a/c while I was walking around my ride - left there in winter maintenance. A jammed rudder would be interesting... Come to think of it, he didn't like me much and he never thanked me.

Maybe someone was using the hammer to get the gear pins out... that's a joke if anyone has any questions.

Ice Pellets?

[J31]

Investigating a rattle in flight of a Cessna 185 we found movement at the strut to wing fitting. Upon removing the access panels a large screwdriver was found connecting the strut to the wing where a bolt should be. Been like that for over a year!

[shitdisturber]

This is why the RCAF has had a tool control system in place for more than thirty years. There are no personal tools allowed on military aircraft and all tool boxes have individual slots for each tool. As well, each tool box has to be signed off as closed and checked by two different people before an aircraft is returned to service. The system isn't perfect but but it's caused a huge reduction in lost tool incidents.

[CFR]

What a clever bunch of little fellows. This is a serious issue, and Beef...feeling bad does not cut it.
There was a RCAF Red Knight that crashed because a tool got jammed in the elevator on his T33.
Not really all that funny.
The USAF has a mind numbing procedure to avoid this, and some form of it should be implemented in Canada, before our little joke makers are joining an Avcanada cirrcopeek to offer their condolences to someone lost in an accident, instead of learning from one that fortunately only resulted in some bent metal.

Of course it’s a serious issue hence my post which indicated that at the end of a proper SMS process, tool control would be identified as a corrective measure!
I found the add-ons to the post to be humorous and while I cannot speak to the posters intent humor can be a tool used to draw attention to a serious issue (a la Rick Mercer) and I took them as such. I happen to believe that a proper SMS process can result in real, effective change, however as has repeatedly been raised here, many (most?) believe that SMS goes overboard resulting in excessive rules that solve nothing.

As pointed out above the RCAF has had tool control in place for years and having worked in that organization for ~30 years, I carry that awareness to my recreational flying. I fly aerobatics and am very conscious of where misplaced items can end up. Empty seat(s) always have the harnesses done up and anything that gets dropped in the cockpit (pen, clipboard, sunglasses, checklist, etc) constitutes a serious hazard requiring rectification prior to flight or in some instances, early termination of the flight.

Interestingly one of the safety “bibles” (I’m afraid I don’t recall the title right now) written by I believe Frank Bird, has as an appendix, a section on hammer safety which goes to many pages and includes similar operating rules to the comments noted above. It was his humorous way of warning of the dangers of excessive rule making.

Finally posts that bump a serious issue back to the top, don’t seem like a bad idea to me.

[longjon]

Tool box shadowing has been in place for a long time now. If your maint orginazition doesn't follow this practice then maybe its time it did. Any maint person who went home with a hammer missisng from his box isnt very professional.

[hoptwoit]

Of all the tools that could have been left in there it was a hammer? After watching the show it seems to be the tool of choice for most repairs.