Wait a minute, I thought you are in the customer relations business...Nark wrote:Theres probably a good reason I'm not in the customer relations business.
AF Fined For Forcing 175 Kg Pax To Buy 2 Seats
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RatherBeFlyingInCanada
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Whoa whoa whoa.......easy there cowboy. That just makes too much sense.Nark wrote:Why don't they grow a pair of balls and tell them the truth.
"Sir, you are too fat. In the event of an evacuation you will hinder the lives of the other passengers."
When are people going to put others ahead of their own feelings?
Theres probably a good reason I'm not in the customer relations business.
"Keep thy airspeed up, lest the earth come from below and smite thee."
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GilletteNorth
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I hope you guys are talking like 'orca' fat. Even then I haven't heard any tales of fat people having problems saving their ass in the event of an emergency.
It can also go the other way, "Sir, you are too much of a light-weight to sit by the emergency exit since in the event of an evacuation you wouldn't be able to lift the emergency exit hatch and place it on the seats so you are a danger to other passengers."
There's a reason they don't allow families with children to sit in the emergency exit row.
I still think this whole discussion is more a matter of increasing seat sizes for larger people so the little people don't complain.
It can also go the other way, "Sir, you are too much of a light-weight to sit by the emergency exit since in the event of an evacuation you wouldn't be able to lift the emergency exit hatch and place it on the seats so you are a danger to other passengers."
There's a reason they don't allow families with children to sit in the emergency exit row.
I still think this whole discussion is more a matter of increasing seat sizes for larger people so the little people don't complain.
Having a standard that pilots lose their licence after making a mistake despite doing no harm to aircraft or passengers means soon you needn't worry about a pilot surplus or pilots offering to fly for free. Where do you get your experience from?
Gilletnorth, they do make bigger seats, they are called first class. And they are allowing you to buy more space, two seats. If your too big to fit in one seat you either need to buy a seat that you fit in, first class, business class, or buy two seats. Which is exactly the policy. Or do you want them to have in there checkin what size seat you want and have a custom made seat for every person. The fact is they do make different size seats, and they make you pay for the extra room.
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Always Moving
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I am tired of the BS politically correct it is getting to a point where you do not know if a person is tall or just fat, because they call him BIG and so on.
I think he should pay, by the way the guy who said he was on a plane with one of this specimens, did you complain? probably not ah! (very Canadian thing to do do not raise too many waves, please do not jump on this, you know is true )
I would ask the Cabin crew for a full seat or a refund, is not the fat guys fault that the airline did not make him pay for the volume needes.
The weight is the problem not how tall you are (well it is a problem for his/her knees)
Since we talk a bout fat people, shouldn't they pay more Income tax, smokers pay more and so people who drink, oh I forgot that is politically incorrect.
(oh! I am gonna catch hell for this....)
I think he should pay, by the way the guy who said he was on a plane with one of this specimens, did you complain? probably not ah! (very Canadian thing to do do not raise too many waves, please do not jump on this, you know is true )
I would ask the Cabin crew for a full seat or a refund, is not the fat guys fault that the airline did not make him pay for the volume needes.
The weight is the problem not how tall you are (well it is a problem for his/her knees)
Since we talk a bout fat people, shouldn't they pay more Income tax, smokers pay more and so people who drink, oh I forgot that is politically incorrect.
(oh! I am gonna catch hell for this....)
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snaproll20
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Put a row of "horizonally enhanced comfort seating" somewhere in the belly baggage and fit a bomb door under it. This will do several things:
1.) The obese can be loaded up the baggage loading conveyer. (speeding up loading.)
2.) They will not be puffing and panting and sweating all over me with the effort of walking a couple of hundred feet.
3.) I won't have to endure them..... for hours and hours.
4.) They can feel special.
5.) In the event we 'lose one' on take-off, the crew can open the bomb door and lighten the MGTOW by a few thousand pounds.
1.) The obese can be loaded up the baggage loading conveyer. (speeding up loading.)
2.) They will not be puffing and panting and sweating all over me with the effort of walking a couple of hundred feet.
3.) I won't have to endure them..... for hours and hours.
4.) They can feel special.
5.) In the event we 'lose one' on take-off, the crew can open the bomb door and lighten the MGTOW by a few thousand pounds.
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quicksilver
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If you're overweight you shouldn't be treated like a second rate individual. Who is to decided if they should buy a second seat? Should there be a section on the online booking sheet where you put in your height and weight? Also, someone measuring how wide you are at the gate, infront of a PLANE load of people is garbage. Maybe all the blacks should sit in the back while we're at it too. The average american IS overweight, maybe, just maybe, seats should be a little bigger, or perhaps big enough to fit an AVERAGE american. My 2c. And before you skirt off about fat americans the rest of the world is in a very close chase. For the record, i'm 6'2" and 190lbs.
Brutal, and not really funny. However, I agree with paying extra if you require more space than the tiny allotment. Normal size guys complain about seat size and pitch, the line is when you infringe on the seat next to you.snaproll20 wrote:Put a row of "horizonally enhanced comfort seating" somewhere in the belly baggage and fit a bomb door under it. This will do several things:
1.) The obese can be loaded up the baggage loading conveyer. (speeding up loading.)
2.) They will not be puffing and panting and sweating all over me with the effort of walking a couple of hundred feet.
3.) I won't have to endure them..... for hours and hours.
4.) They can feel special.
5.) In the event we 'lose one' on take-off, the crew can open the bomb door and lighten the MGTOW by a few thousand pounds.
Talking about little people and amputees, what about small kids? Should they pay less as well? Other services do this, the point being to attract a life time of business even if they don't actually have use of a smaller seat. Good business and fairness if this is the way we're going.
I had this situation not too long ago, except I couldn't complain because
I was traveling on passes. I was assigned a middle seat and when I got to the row there was an obese person sitting in the window seat spilling over into my seat.( at least 1/3 over) with the armrest up. In the name of sparing this persons feelings, no one did anything. There were other empty middle seats beside average sized people, all the F/A had to do was say sir there is an open aile seat in the back if you like. A lie but it would have spared their feelings and my back some agony from sitting angled with a blob of sweaty fat draped over my leg. It took every bit of my will power to be pleasant to this person, which being a representitive of the company, I had no choice. Not sure how I would have been had I been a full fare customer.
For the record, I'm over 6' and 265 lbs and I fit in between the armrest just fine. Charging by weight wouldn't be fair, because I'm not fat, I used to lift weights for mass, I don't spill over into another seat. I liked the standard seat idea,if you cant fit in the seat you pay more, but it has to be discrete so as not to offend the F#T F*&K%R
I was traveling on passes. I was assigned a middle seat and when I got to the row there was an obese person sitting in the window seat spilling over into my seat.( at least 1/3 over) with the armrest up. In the name of sparing this persons feelings, no one did anything. There were other empty middle seats beside average sized people, all the F/A had to do was say sir there is an open aile seat in the back if you like. A lie but it would have spared their feelings and my back some agony from sitting angled with a blob of sweaty fat draped over my leg. It took every bit of my will power to be pleasant to this person, which being a representitive of the company, I had no choice. Not sure how I would have been had I been a full fare customer.
For the record, I'm over 6' and 265 lbs and I fit in between the armrest just fine. Charging by weight wouldn't be fair, because I'm not fat, I used to lift weights for mass, I don't spill over into another seat. I liked the standard seat idea,if you cant fit in the seat you pay more, but it has to be discrete so as not to offend the F#T F*&K%R
