YBW-Kid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:25 am
I am proud to identify myself as a "Nimby". People who call others this name have no dog in the race. Nothing they love to loose. Nothing they cherish to protect. You see these people you call "Nimby's" were there long before this airport was built. They had a idilic way of life they cherished. Comments like "its only open farmland" indicate you have zero concept of the issues. Every airplane which fly's over them, now reminds them of this change they did not want. None of us like change, but if it was thrust upon you without any considerations to your concerns, then you take a stand against that change. You become a Nimby, proudly.
Airports and Pilots are outsiders intruding on these peoples lives. To those who use the word Nimby, I sincerely hope you someday are on the other end of this issue. Think of of your home you live in now. Are you proud of it? You work extremely hard to pay for it. You skimp and save and sacrifice to put yourself where you live. Did you invest money in making it just perfect with own person touches, landscaping, backyard upgrades, developed basement exactly to your tastes and comforts? You choose the neighbourhood because of the tree's, the parks, the quiet streets, the view. Do you love where you live? I hope you do. We all deserve that.
Now imagine a corporation, developer, or government telling you there is a huge change coming to your neighbourhood. Sorry- we are cutting down the trees you love to make room for the parking lot and roads to put the new Walmart across the way from your home. Too bad you don't like all the flood lights to keep the parking lot lit up at night. Have to keep them safe. Too bad you don't like all the traffic driving by you house to shortcut into the Walmart. Too bad people leave shopping carts on your lawn. Too bad you don't like the noise of the big trucks brining in to products at 3:00 AM. Hell you use a noisy lawnmower to cut your grass- what are you bitching about. Your a Nimby! Remember what your home was like before all those changes? Too bad.
Hah. That's funny. Are you going to try to tell people you've had an "idyllic" way of life near YBW before YBW started up in '69?
Also, let's examine what a NIMBY is. It's not necessarily a person that wants aviation or other technology to stop. They still want to reap the benefits of the industry. They want to be able fly somewhere for vacation, order packages from amazon, have the grocery store stock food not produced locally, etc. They just want
someone else to put up with the inevitable hassles that this industry (and other industries) cause. In other words, they are simply selfish. They recognize that a needs for aviation, and oil/gas production, and power generation all exist in order to carry on with their lifestyle, they just want those things to go on out of their way and out of their notice. For them, airports need to be close enough to their house to drive to, but far enough away that they can't see/hear them. Damn everybody else.
I'd hate to burst your "idyllic" bubble, but pretty much everybody has to deal with change in their lives. The example you give is almost exactly what just happened to my parents house: they bought a property on the edge of the city, with their yard backing on a wilderness area with lots of trees and the occasional moose. Then some years later, the trees were all cut down and a road built for further development. Did they bitch and whine that someone was encroaching on their beautiful space that they didn't own? No. Because they realized that it was inevitable and is the cost of progress. The development of their home encroached on somebody else's view as well.
As to your comment about pilots being outsiders intruding on
people's lives... Guess what, pilots are people too, trying to live their lives. People closing down airports are intruding on their lives too. One could just as easily call people living on acreages and farms "outsiders" intruding on the lives of "normal" city dwellers by blocking development. It's exactly this "us or them" attitude that hampers cooperation.
Hopefully when you grow up and move out from your parents' acreage near YBW you will realize that everyone has to deal with these kinds of issues, and reasonable adults learn to compromise. They don't just decide that their way of life needs to be protected at all costs, and to hell with other people's issues.
Fine day to fly wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:31 am
Your lucky you only dealt with the wife with 5 very large boys and not the Harley riding husband who is 6 foot 1 inch and about 280 lbs.
Oh, please elaborate on this. Why was he lucky to deal with a woman instead of an obese man? Is this supposed to be some sort of threat of physical violence because someone parked on "your" street? Or is it to illustrate that this family doesn't care about noise at all since the husband rides a Harley, and only dislike airplanes? I find most Harleys to be much noisier and more intrusive than an airplane flying overhead, especially the ones with straight pipes whose owners think that owning a certain brand of motorcycle makes them cooler or seem more tough.
"People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it." -George Bernard Shaw