Ferry permit
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Ferry permit
I need to fly an aircraft to a new owner (staying in Canada), but the aircraft is out of annual (it expired in Apr). Can the flight be done with a special ferry permit? What's involved in getting a ferry permit?
Re: Ferry permit
Get the form from your regional office, or download it:
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/2 ... 8-07_E.pdf
fill it in saying why a permit is required and the intended route. Have it countersigned by an AME familiar with the aircraft to say it's in a safe condition for the intended flight and that it complies with all applicable airworthiness directives. Pay the fee and send the form and the receipt number to your regional office. Wait a week to 10 days - presto hey, receive ferry permit.
Regardless of condition, all ADs must be up to date.
The ferry permit will be day VFR flight and no passengers. The route must avoid overflight of built up areas. They are typically valid for a 30 day period.
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/2 ... 8-07_E.pdf
fill it in saying why a permit is required and the intended route. Have it countersigned by an AME familiar with the aircraft to say it's in a safe condition for the intended flight and that it complies with all applicable airworthiness directives. Pay the fee and send the form and the receipt number to your regional office. Wait a week to 10 days - presto hey, receive ferry permit.
Regardless of condition, all ADs must be up to date.
The ferry permit will be day VFR flight and no passengers. The route must avoid overflight of built up areas. They are typically valid for a 30 day period.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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WOW a week to ten days-not sure that's accurate. It's worth your time to call your local TC office instead of getting the expert advice you just received here.
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I checked my dates. My application was submitted 1 October, rejected 6 October, resubmitted 12 October and issued 15 October. You're welcome to your own conclusions about service times.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Re: Ferry permit
About 1 week to 15 days depending how long the person plays solitaire on their computer.
Re: Ferry permit
Hello. Where can I find the flight restrictions (day VFR, no PAX, no overflight over built up area) for a ferry flight? I am not sure where to look. I couldn't find it in the CARsphotofly wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2016 10:48 am Get the form from your regional office, or download it:
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/2 ... 8-07_E.pdf
fill it in saying why a permit is required and the intended route. Have it countersigned by an AME familiar with the aircraft to say it's in a safe condition for the intended flight and that it complies with all applicable airworthiness directives. Pay the fee and send the form and the receipt number to your regional office. Wait a week to 10 days - presto hey, receive ferry permit.
Regardless of condition, all ADs must be up to date.
The ferry permit will be day VFR flight and no passengers. The route must avoid overflight of built up areas. They are typically valid for a 30 day period.
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It should be displayed on the ferry permit. Day VFR no PAX seems to be the default.pild04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:09 pmHello. Where can I find the flight restrictions (day VFR, no PAX, no overflight over built up area) for a ferry flight? I am not sure where to look. I couldn't find it in the CARsphotofly wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2016 10:48 am Get the form from your regional office, or download it:
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/2 ... 8-07_E.pdf
fill it in saying why a permit is required and the intended route. Have it countersigned by an AME familiar with the aircraft to say it's in a safe condition for the intended flight and that it complies with all applicable airworthiness directives. Pay the fee and send the form and the receipt number to your regional office. Wait a week to 10 days - presto hey, receive ferry permit.
Regardless of condition, all ADs must be up to date.
The ferry permit will be day VFR flight and no passengers. The route must avoid overflight of built up areas. They are typically valid for a 30 day period.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
Re: Ferry permit
Ferry (and other flight) permits are issued to allow specific purpose flights only, for purposes, or in conditions which otherwise would not be permitted. The compromise being that TC will insist on minimizing any other risk. So, for ferrying a GA plane, it'll be day VFR ('cause there is no reason to ferry GA airplanes at night or IFR - needless risk). Exceptions would be routes where IFR were required, or night unavoidable, but that it outside the scope of this discussion.
The TC Inspector will have a pre-canned list of restrictions, and apply those he considers most applicable. When I apply for specific purpose flight permits, I may request alternate restrictions (110% of Vne) for example) to complete a required test. If I am requesting restrictions outside the norm, I have to justify why, and provide a test plan and safety plan. They are saving you the trouble of documenting your safety plan, by just telling you what the limitations shall be.
As Photofly says, the airplane must be "safe and fit" for the flight, which includes all AD's compliant - zero give on that! TC Inspectors, when treated with social courtesy, are quite good at a suitable turnaround. I have never needed more than a week from application to receiving the flight permit as requested.
If the airplane is out of annual, in addition to assuring AD compliance, you should plan for an inspection to assure that it is safe and fit for the intended flight, which the AME cosigning your application will do.
The TC Inspector will have a pre-canned list of restrictions, and apply those he considers most applicable. When I apply for specific purpose flight permits, I may request alternate restrictions (110% of Vne) for example) to complete a required test. If I am requesting restrictions outside the norm, I have to justify why, and provide a test plan and safety plan. They are saving you the trouble of documenting your safety plan, by just telling you what the limitations shall be.
As Photofly says, the airplane must be "safe and fit" for the flight, which includes all AD's compliant - zero give on that! TC Inspectors, when treated with social courtesy, are quite good at a suitable turnaround. I have never needed more than a week from application to receiving the flight permit as requested.
If the airplane is out of annual, in addition to assuring AD compliance, you should plan for an inspection to assure that it is safe and fit for the intended flight, which the AME cosigning your application will do.
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Might be better just to get the annual done? It's going to be needed anyways,
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