Tough situation encountered on the rollout

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Tough situation encountered on the rollout

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"A privately-registered Cessna 172 (C-GVDV) was landing at a private grass strip near Hagersville, ON. During the first approach the aircraft was fast so the pilot performed a go-around. During the second approach the pilot landed and found the aircraft's engine wasn't responding to reduced power inputs and the aircraft wasn't slowing down. The pilot, unable to stop the aircraft in the remaining runway, attempted a go-around. Unable to clear power lines at the end of the runway the pilot attempted to fly under them and hit a tree with the left wing. The aircraft came to rest in a farm field with substantial damage. The pilot was not injured."

There is not enough information to know if there was a known problem prior to the second approach. But....thinking about this one with some time to sit back and ponder in my comfortable chair.....for future reference if this happens all of a sudden, perhaps a quick pull of the mixture or turning off the mags.

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It's hard to tell from the report whether it was an engine problem or a pilot problem.
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I have had a stuck full throttle before.

I elected carb heat hot, one mag, full flaps, and a forward slipping approach to get down to a reasonable approach speed. Once I had made the field, I pulled the mixture, cut the mags, and landed without incident. I should also note that I had a couple hundred hours flying gliders at the time, so it was really a non-event.

Moving forward, if I were ever to have an aircraft fail in the same manner again, I would perform the same procedure.
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Perhaps if he was fast on the first approach, there may have been the subtle increase and power there that was not noticed. Either way, very unfortunate situation and I'm glad no one was hurt.
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MCB wrote:Perhaps if he was fast on the first approach, there may have been the subtle increase and power there that was not noticed. Either way, very unfortunate situation and I'm glad no one was hurt.
Friction cranked full tight?
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One of the pilots at a field I used to be based at landed off-airport because his throttle started to stick in flight, and then froze at full throttle. He returned to the airport, where his plan was to pull the mixture when he was set up for the runway, but he pulled it too soon and ended up landing short. He didn't know that if he pushed it back in the engine would likely re-start.
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Froze ?
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CpnCrunch wrote:It's hard to tell from the report whether it was an engine problem or a pilot problem.
Any idea why it's vague, as to rwy direction etc ..
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pdw wrote:
CpnCrunch wrote:It's hard to tell from the report whether it was an engine problem or a pilot problem.
Any idea why it's vague, as to rwy direction etc ..
It's unclear whether the engine really wasn't responding to inputs, or whether the pilot just came in too fast and couldn't get it slowed down. If it was an engine problem, his actions don't really make sense.
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AirFrame wrote:One of the pilots at a field I used to be based at landed off-airport because his throttle started to stick in flight, and then froze at full throttle. He returned to the airport, where his plan was to pull the mixture when he was set up for the runway, but he pulled it too soon and ended up landing short. He didn't know that if he pushed it back in the engine would likely re-start.
If available, a nice long runway is a good place to land in such a situation.
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