Citation down North of Kelowna
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Citation down North of Kelowna
Just heard last night 10:30pm went off radar .
4 dead .
Cessna Citation ??????
Anyone know anymore???
Godspeed
4 dead .
Cessna Citation ??????
Anyone know anymore???
Godspeed
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Re: Citation down North of Kelowna
Flightaware show C-GTNG departing Kelowna and off radar at 9:36pm
Norjet???
Norjet???
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Media reporting that former Alberta Premier Jim Prentice may have been on board.
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There has been some nasty weather over Western Canada lately.
Condolences to the families of everyone on board. Rest in peace.
Condolences to the families of everyone on board. Rest in peace.
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A) No it hasn't. Not in CYLW lately.upup_away wrote:There has been some nasty weather over Western Canada lately.
B) Theres no wx that would cause you to go -2000fpm on a 500. Even on 1 engine.
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Wrong fuel?daedalusx wrote:A) No it hasn't. Not in CYLW lately.upup_away wrote:There has been some nasty weather over Western Canada lately.
B) Theres no wx that would cause you to go -2000fpm on a 500. Even on 1 engine.
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A jet should be able to burn 100LL for a long time.
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Condolences to all involved.
Long duty day, regardless if split duty, wouldn't have helped deal with emergency issues. Especially if single pilot. Easy to make mistakes, pull the wrong lever after losing an engine, etc. Could have been medical, who knows.
The TSB is incredible at what they do, I'm sure they'll get it figured out in due time.
Long duty day, regardless if split duty, wouldn't have helped deal with emergency issues. Especially if single pilot. Easy to make mistakes, pull the wrong lever after losing an engine, etc. Could have been medical, who knows.
The TSB is incredible at what they do, I'm sure they'll get it figured out in due time.
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GTNT took off from YLW five minutes after I did yesterday; I doubt it was weather related. My condolences to those affected.
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Yes, thanks, I've found that out.AllClutch wrote:A jet should be able to burn 100LL for a long time.
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This was a privately registered aircraft. But all good points.Oscar wrote:Condolences to all involved.
Long duty day, regardless if split duty, wouldn't have helped deal with emergency issues. Especially if single pilot. Easy to make mistakes, pull the wrong lever after losing an engine, etc. Could have been medical, who knows.
The TSB is incredible at what they do, I'm sure they'll get it figured out in due time.
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
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So no icing conditions were present in the area at the time?GTNT took off from YLW five minutes after I did yesterday; I doubt it was weather related. My condolences to those affected.
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Jim Prentice, former AB premiere, was aboard the plane. RIP to all.
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Nothing of any significance.fixedpitch wrote:
So no icing conditions were present in the area at the time?
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Re: Citation down North of Kelowna
Here's the 10pm metar if I copied the right one...
SA 14/10/2016 05:00->
METAR CYLW 140500Z AUTO 01007KT 8SM -RA BKN006 OVC018 07/06
A2941 RMK PRESFR PCPN 0.5MM PAST HR SLP970=
Condolences to the families having the worst day of their life right now.
SA 14/10/2016 05:00->
METAR CYLW 140500Z AUTO 01007KT 8SM -RA BKN006 OVC018 07/06
A2941 RMK PRESFR PCPN 0.5MM PAST HR SLP970=
Condolences to the families having the worst day of their life right now.
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Re: Citation down North of Kelowna
The 3? I have are
1) was there a strong jet stream or Mountain wave in the Kelowna area those have been known to exceed 3000ft min
2)medical issues
3) did aircraft have inflight structural failure
Note this is not speculation. But?
To his family I was fortunate to have met him 1 once. When he was industry minister. Also he took the time to answer my opposition to the sale of mc Donald Dwettwiller to ALLIANZ. Re sar sat 2 technology it spoke volumes to me about the kind of guy he was. My sincere condolences to his family and to also to the families of all on board.
1) was there a strong jet stream or Mountain wave in the Kelowna area those have been known to exceed 3000ft min
2)medical issues
3) did aircraft have inflight structural failure
Note this is not speculation. But?
To his family I was fortunate to have met him 1 once. When he was industry minister. Also he took the time to answer my opposition to the sale of mc Donald Dwettwiller to ALLIANZ. Re sar sat 2 technology it spoke volumes to me about the kind of guy he was. My sincere condolences to his family and to also to the families of all on board.
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Terrible news, condolences to all family and friends 

"It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." - Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
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Well .. okay ..your post is made 305pm.ragbagflyer wrote:Nothing of any significance.fixedpitch wrote:
So no icing conditions were present in the area at the time?
FYI there's a radar image publicized for 9:40pm last night shown on CBC 3:45pm today by Chris, of the wx network. Seems there ... if you performed a right turnout at YLW off rwy16 for climbout west could encounter markedly different precip in climb than in the left turnout into a northeast climbout east of Kelowna.
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Jim Prentice was an outstanding Canadian.oldncold wrote:The 3? I have are
1) was there a strong jet stream or Mountain wave in the Kelowna area those have been known to exceed 3000ft min
2)medical issues
3) did aircraft have inflight structural failure
Note this is not speculation. But?
To his family I was fortunate to have met him 1 once. When he was industry minister. Also he took the time to answer my opposition to the sale of mc Donald Dwettwiller to ALLIANZ. Re sar sat 2 technology it spoke volumes to me about the kind of guy he was. My sincere condolences to his family and to also to the families of all on board.
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
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I spent a fair amount of time sitting in a relative's house at Black Mountain in Rutland this summer and every jet I saw coming of 16 climbed straight ahead and abeam Black Mountain started a climbing left turn for eastern points.pdw wrote:Well .. okay ..your post is made 305pm.ragbagflyer wrote:Nothing of any significance.fixedpitch wrote:
So no icing conditions were present in the area at the time?
FYI there's a radar image publicized for 9:40pm last night shown on CBC 3:45pm today by Chris, of the wx network. Seems there ... if you performed a right turnout at YLW off rwy16 for climbout west could encounter markedly different precip in climb than in the left turnout into a northeast climbout east of Kelowna.
Do we know they departed off 16. The METAR seems to favor 34, no?
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
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The Star has this report, naming another passenger...DanWEC wrote:Jim Prentice, former AB premiere, was aboard the plane. RIP to all.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... crash.html
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