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Ottawa...playoff chokers?

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Won't Jacques Martin be smiling feeling vindicated if they choke. He's a great coach IMHO...but they needed a scape goat because the players were being phaggots



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Is anyone even paying attention to ottawa?
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Oh @#$! yeah! Quiet due to the fact that our collective jaw is still on the floor from the 3 game head start we spotted Buffalo. If OT doesn't work out for us we can all take some consilation in the fact that it's the Sabres and not the prick bastard Leafs.
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Well thats that.

Maybe they should fire the coach...or the Zambony guy!!!
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time to grab the golf clubs, have fun on the links boys!
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MF'r

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Heres a little story
about a hockey team
who may just win the stanley cup
but only in there dreams
The team is from ottawa
the senators is there name
soon to be inducted in the golfing hall of fame
they say they'll beat our leafers
HA now there's a funny joke
cause every year at playoff time
the senators always choke

So 3 cheers for ottawa
a real team they are nottawa
they can give all that they gottawa
but the stanley cup will never go to Ottawa

Ottawa has their Parlament
and MPs in the news
and its kinda like their hockey team
they talk a lot but don't produce
there not the brightest either
I really have to say
when the capital of our country
spells Canada with a K (hey thats kanada)

Oh 3 cheers for Ottawa
they think they got a shottawa
they must be smokin pottawa
cuz the stanley cup will never go 2 ottawa

u better press your flood pants
its that time once again
2 here that familar ottawa senators saying
T off is at 10
so get ready for the crying
take out your hankerchief
you're about to get your ass kicked
by the toronto maple leafs

Oooh 3 cheers 4 ottawa
a lesson they'll be taughtawa
Hossa and Havlattawa
youll soon be golfing alotawa

What the hell else rhymes with Ottawa
not a whole heck of alotawa


there the team we already forgotawa
cuz the Stanley cup will never go to Ottawaaaaaaaa




I couldn't find the link to the song by him so just had the lyrics up.
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Leafs Suck!

At least the Sens had 5 more wins in the post season than the Laffs.


Birddog: I had the same thoughts. Jaques was probably yelling "I told ya so" at the TV.

Hope Muckler is fired.
I saw this coming down the pike when I heard they signed the walking groin injury.
Tyler Arnesson? Who is that? did he play for Ottawa?
Rob Ray (TWICE!) ????????


Kudos to Ray Emery. He gave them a chance to win every night.
I still think the series could have gone the other way. Luck is manufactured and Ottawa had damn little. The players in front of Emery let him (and us) down.

I think Alfie is either gone or will give up the C
They should give it to Fisher. What a warrior.

Hate to see either Z or Wade go but I think one of them will.

Did I mention the Leafs Suck!

Next Year!
GO SENS GO!
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Barlow Beech Boy wrote:Leafs Suck!

At least the Sens had 5 more wins in the post season than the Laffs.
Its still 11 short of the goal that everyone in Ottawa thought they'd reach.
Barlow Beech Boy wrote: Kudos to Ray Emery. He gave them a chance to win every night.
I still think the series could have gone the other way. Luck is manufactured and Ottawa had damn little. The players in front of Emery let him (and us) down.
Cant just deny that Ray Emery was awesome. Ottawa's biggest problem has always been a reliable goaltender. They either had someone who could hold their own in the regular season but bit the big one come playoff time, or they sign a walking medical-emergency and then get upset when he goes down hurt. Emery, as good a backup as he is, is no starting goalie (yet). As decent as he played, decent doesn't win Stanley Cups. He let in far too many soft goals (the OT winner by Drury 18 seconds in is a good example), on far too few of shots. Weren't they outshooting Buffalo 116 to 60 over the course of the games in Ottawa? Or some stat like that.

A mediocre goalie for Ottawa combined with a red-hot goalie for Buffalo. Not to mention that the top Ottawa line looked like a 3rd or 4th string set all series. When they can only score on the Power Play, you know something is up. Lindy Ruff coached nearly perfect: check the heck out of the top line and put the pressure on the rest of the Sens.
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Barlow Beech Boy wrote:Leafs Suck!

At least the Sens had 5 more wins in the post season than the Laffs.


Birddog: I had the same thoughts. Jaques was probably yelling "I told ya so" at the TV.

Hope Muckler is fired.
I saw this coming down the pike when I heard they signed the walking groin injury.
Tyler Arnesson? Who is that? did he play for Ottawa?
Rob Ray (TWICE!) ????????


Kudos to Ray Emery. He gave them a chance to win every night.
I still think the series could have gone the other way. Luck is manufactured and Ottawa had damn little. The players in front of Emery let him (and us) down.

I think Alfie is either gone or will give up the C
They should give it to Fisher. What a warrior.

Hate to see either Z or Wade go but I think one of them will.

Did I mention the Leafs Suck!

Next Year!
GO SENS GO!
cheers
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Is someone sensative that the sens didn't go all the way, and blew it in the second round AGAIN!! :D just kidding.

All that aside they should have gone farther, but like already said when you get a goalie signed that is in his late 30's had nothing but med trouble in the past what do you expect. I think emery did an amazing job concidering that he is a rookie and never been in that position before. With the pressure that was put on this individual I think he did amazing, the guys up front where just way to cocky and confident and got schooled. I hope that they learned a lesson for next year and do better alot better.
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Interesting article in today's Spectator:




Ottawa's annual playoff swoons may be the result of stealing our team away 16 years ago
By Scott Radley, the
The Hamilton Spectator
3 (May 15, 2006)
Interesting isn't it, that the same week news breaks of yet another Hamilton bid surfacing to acquire an NHL franchise, the team that should've been ours in the first place gags its way right out of the playoffs? Again.

You'd almost think maybe the Ottawa Senators are suffering some kind of Steeltown Curse.

Go ahead and scoff. But first look at the facts surrounding the weird and unexplainable failures of this team and you'll see they don't make sense without the intervention of some kind of punitive supernatural force. Some black cloud that's angry at the way the team was cruelly stolen from us a decade-and-a-half ago.

Back in 1990, the franchise that became the Senators landed in Ottawa only because of some sketchy promises to a money-hungry-yet-not-really-all-that-interested-in-details NHL board of governors. Most of what was promised was pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking that was about as reality-based as an episode of SpongeBob SquarePants.

Meanwhile, the Hamilton group was a little less inclined to blow smoke up the owners' rear ends. Doughnut magnate Ron Joyce's unwillingness to say anything essentially sent the team to the nation's capital where it languished in last place for years. In fact, if there was someplace below last place, it would've been there much of the time.

The first hint of the Curse came when inaugural general manager Mel Bridgeman arrived at the team's first draft with all his notes on his computer and the thing wouldn't work, forcing him to draft by memory. And not very well as you'll recall.

The Curse reared its ugly head again when junior superstar Alexander Daigle was made the overpaid face of the franchise and then spent years playing too little like Wayne Gretzky and too much like Brad Marsh.

But it's in the playoffs where things get really spooky.

In the Sens' first-ever visit to the playoffs in 1997, they lost to the Sabres in overtime of the seventh game when goalie Ron Tugnutt flubbed a long slapshot by Derek Plante that he would've stopped 999 times out of 1,000.

The Curse next appeared when the Sens lined up against Toronto. Four times in five years. In those battles, they often had the Leafs on the ropes, yet always found an inexplicable way to blow it. The most mind-blowing being the last meeting when a Patrick Lalime mental meltdown allowed Toronto to squeeze two fluffball shots past him in Game 7.

Mixed in there was a crushing loss to New Jersey in which the series-winning goal was scored with just three minutes left in the seventh game on a weird play.

You'd think that'd be as bad as it could get. You'd be wrong.

Two years ago, the Curse worked overtime by shutting down the entire league for the whole season as soon as Ottawa assembled a team strong enough to compete for the Cup.

Then came this year. By all measures, the star-laden Senators should've been able to topple the speedy-but-lunch-pail Sabres. Ottawa seemed to have at last put all the pieces together.

They needed a better goalie so they got Dominik Hasek. They were considered a little soft so they called up Brian McGratton. Their coach wasn't pushing the right buttons so they got a guy more suited to their skill set.

So what'd the Curse do?

Let's see. Their goalie got hurt on a fluke play thousands of kilometres from home in the Olympics and then became a gigantic distraction to everyone in the dressing room. Their tough guy was deemed useless as the NHL ordered its officials to call a skills-over-toughness postseason. And their coach outsmarted himself by breaking up the most powerful line in the league long enough for it to lose its magic.

Keep in mind, all this happened against Buffalo, a city that had previously had the market cornered on cursed teams.

So what does it all mean?

Well, it is kind of exciting, really. Our city now finds itself holding a spot on the mantle of great sports hexes alongside the Curse of the Bambino, the Curse of the Black Sox, the Billy Goat Curse, and the Sports Illustrated Cover Jinx.

Whether you call it the Copps Curse, the Hortons Hex, the Joyce Jinx or the Steeltown Stink, the Sens are clearly doomed.

All thanks to us.

So take a bow Hamilton.

You're in the big time.

Now that the pain is becoming even more unbearable in the nation's capital on the heels of yet another ridiculously massive playoff choke -- take a listen to the vitriol flying around on their sports talk radio shows today if you doubt -- maybe they'll finally relent and give us back the team that was rightfully ours.

Because the Curse won't be lifted until they do.

By the numbers

3 -- Games that went into overtime in the series.

1 -- Total saves Ottawa goalie Ray Emery made in those OT losses.

1 -- Game-winning goals in the series by Jason Pominville who finished 138th in the NHL in regular-season goal scoring.

0 -- Game-winning goals in the series by Dany Heatley and Daniel Alfredsson who finished 5th and 9th respectively in the NHL in regular-season goal scoring.

1 -- Even-strength goals scored by the Sens in the last four games.

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Ryan Miller earned every cent of his salary during this series.
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Flyinhigh:
Not sensitive. Used to it by now. still waiting for the pleasant surprise.

The same thing happened this year as in all past.
Ottawa runs into a hot goalie (Miller) and the big guns suffer deafening silence.

More than the SOG, I believe the Sens out chanced Buffalo in just about every game but Miller stood on his head. Luck is a fickle bitch and she favored the Herd.

The Sens D was pretty soft in the first 3 games. So many odd man rushes where the Sabres converted. Hell, my dog knows to take the pass and let the goalie have the shot on a 2-on1. Frustrating is an understatement.

I am at a loss for waht happened to the top players. Was Heatley even on the ice in that series? Wouldn't know it if he was. Alfie was disinterested.
The only line they had going was Fisher/Havlat/Schaeffer. Like I said, Fish should get the C next year.

I am optimistic for next year in the goalie dept.
Yes Emery let in some softies but I stand by my earlier statement that he played damn well for a rookie (won them the east in the stretch) and now has 2 series worth of playoff experience to draw on for next year.

As for YHM not getting a team, that has waaaaaay more to do with the Laffs and the Herd not wanting thier $$$$ taken from them. That got nuthin to do with YOW.

but for 2006, Go Oilers Go.
Somebody gotta bring Stanley home!

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Post by wingtip »

Good summary BBB.

Haz, the Joyce jinx is only good for his hour of daily sobriety :roll:
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ROFL @ Beech Boy....

BBB, you make me laugh. Atleast the Leafs don't choke in the playoffs. In fact, every series they have played in the past few years, have been some pretty great hockey....the Islanders, the Flyers to name a few. Can't say much for the 8 or 9 series that we've smoked your Sens, they hardly broke a sweat.

So yes, I realize we stunk up the joint this season, but it's better to be prepared for failure that to think we have the best team in the world and go in and get our asses wiped by a bunch of no-namers like Buffalo.


HAHAHA.......How's it feel to choke in the playoffs over and over again?

SENS SUCK!!!!
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squawk 7600 wrote:
Atleast the Leafs don't choke in the playoffs.


This is the truest statement I have ever seen on this site. They choke and suck so bad they don't make the playoffs!
How's it feel to choke in the playoffs over and over again?
Pretty good when the option is not even making the playoffs!!
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gr8gazu wrote:
squawk 7600 wrote:
Atleast the Leafs don't choke in the playoffs.


This is the truest statement I have ever seen on this site. They choke and suck so bad they don't make the playoffs!
How's it feel to choke in the playoffs over and over again?
Pretty good when the option is not even making the playoffs!!
If a team fails to win a Stanley Cup, then who the hell cares where they finished or how far they made it in the finals? There is only one team's group of fans that can truly celebrate a successful season. Everyone else is just trying to justify failure by squeezing tiny positives out of a waste of $40 million in salary, 8 months of hockey, and months of pre-season training.
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How's it feel to choke in the playoffs over and over again?

see my previous post. I'm assuming you can read.
Only a Toronna fan could boast about not making the playoffs. :P

Clodhopper: good point man! but it is still satisfying to know the Sens won 5 more games in the post season than the Laffs and won the season series 7-1 (or sumthin like that). You take the consolations where you can find them. Fortunately, the Battle of Ontario never gets old.


LEAFS SUCK!


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Barlow Beech Bum,

I boast about not making the playoffs because I knew during the latter part of the season (aside from the final 10 games or so) that they had no chance in hell. I was prepared, no surprises there.

I feel bad for you Sen's fans because you were lied to! Absolutely, stared-you-the-eye, lied to. Your team puts up the best ever single season by a Sens team (possibly even any Canadian team), they get you all hot n' horny for the cup, then your goalie goes off to play for his country, gets hurt (again), and ruins your chances of winning anything. Then in the playoffs, Chara all of a sudden thinks he's a forward, Heatley goes on vacation and misses his flight back to Ottawa, and Alfredson momentarily forgets how to skate backwards and there you have it, an end to a typical Ottawa season. I feel extremely bad for you guys. Just like Ottawa to make all those false promises. I hear Paul Martin is next in line for the G.M. job, with Jean Chretien as head coach.

But never fear Beech Boy, we'll keep a seat warm for you over here at the ACC, for when you come knocking on our door.
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All i can say is, Toronto didn't even make it in the playoffs

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squawk 7600 wrote:Barlow Beech Bum,

I boast about not making the playoffs because I knew during the latter part of the season (aside from the final 10 games or so) that they had no chance in hell. I was prepared, no surprises there.

I feel bad for you Sen's fans because you were lied to! Absolutely, stared-you-the-eye, lied to. Your team puts up the best ever single season by a Sens team (possibly even any Canadian team), they get you all hot n' horny for the cup, then your goalie goes off to play for his country, gets hurt (again), and ruins your chances of winning anything. Then in the playoffs, Chara all of a sudden thinks he's a forward, Heatley goes on vacation and misses his flight back to Ottawa, and Alfredson momentarily forgets how to skate backwards and there you have it, an end to a typical Ottawa season. I feel extremely bad for you guys. Just like Ottawa to make all those false promises. I hear Paul Martin is next in line for the G.M. job, with Jean Chretien as head coach.
Who in particular lied about the Sens?? Please substantiate that argument.

Their early season record stood on its own and certainly, all indications were promising that the Sens had a real shot at the cup. They started the season as a team that gelled and was designed for the new NHL. After a series of injuries and tragic loss of two of the players mothers, they didn't get the momemtum back. This was a lot for a young bunch of guys to deal with. The team won as a team and very much lost as a team with blame that could be shared quite broadly amongst the players.

They have dedicated ownership, excellent management and some very skilled players. There will no doubt be some changes, but they do stand a chance again next year and individually and collectively will have gained game and life experience. That can't hurt!

I still don't see who lied??

You need to take a sober second look at the leafs who's fans seem to have nothing but blind faith. Until there are significant changes to ownership, management and players, they will never win the cup. They lack the passion from ownership on down and it is very obviously, just a business. They have the largest and most loyal fan base and always sell out. They don't need to win to retain the fan support and management knows that. It really is a sad example for the rest of the league.

Until the Leafs give me a reason to cheer.....Go Sens!
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Well said gazu.

I don't feel lied to, very disappointed, but not lied to.

My last word leafs, they fired the wrong guy.


See you next season.
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